ahmad0420
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Post by ahmad0420 on May 3, 2020 19:01:51 GMT -7
Hi guys, been reading this forum for quite a while now, mostly reading on issues faced by fellow riders. It’s time for me to post my problems 😂
My ‘16 MT-10 has 80,000km on it. Recently the bike keeps dying at random times either when cruising, or when I kick it from neutral to gear 1. It happens on all fuel levels. And it doesn’t stutter or jerk, the engine just cuts off. Speedo still on.
I can be cruising at 100km/h and the engine just cuts off. The rear wheel doesnt lock, the bike just coast, in gear.
Either of those time there wasn’t any restarting issue - the bike starts back as it would normally. But it only starts at neutral. It won’t start at gear 1, while clutching in.
I’m no technical expert, but it seems to me the circuit got opened temporarily, either via the sidestand switch or engine cut off switch (the red one).
Anyone experienced this before? And any suggestions what may be the problem? Does sidestand switch issue sounds about right?
TL;DR:
Engine cut-off, speedo still on when: - cruising on the highway - coming to a stop, right after clutching in. - kicking to gear 1 from neutral
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Post by rracerfz10 on May 4, 2020 20:31:43 GMT -7
Have you inspected it to make sure either the switch it’s self or the connector isn’t all gummed up with chain lube? Probably wouldn’t hurt to buy some electrical contact cleaner remove the switch and blast it. You could also try unplugging it and jumping the wires and going for a ride to see if the problem happens.
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Post by RedAndBlack on May 4, 2020 20:33:59 GMT -7
Kickstand or loose terminal on the battery is a definite bet on what's causing that.
Check the battery connections and clean and tighten all of the stuff on the sidestand. Make sure the sensor and the parts line up as they should.
And welcome to the forum! Please report back what you find. This is invaluable to others who may have the issues.
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ahmad0420
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Post by ahmad0420 on May 5, 2020 10:19:54 GMT -7
Have you inspected it to make sure either the switch it’s self or the connector isn’t all gummed up with chain lube? Probably wouldn’t hurt to buy some electrical contact cleaner remove the switch and blast it. You could also try unplugging it and jumping the wires and going for a ride to see if the problem happens. I’ve checked the sidestand plunger switch itself just in case it gets stuck easily. But seems like theres no way it was stuck because the spring action is very strong. Yet to check the connector terminal up top. By jumping the wires you mean connecting a short piece of wires cut at the end and making a U to connect to the two metal contact of the plug right? Kickstand or loose terminal on the battery is a definite bet on what's causing that. Check the battery connections and clean and tighten all of the stuff on the sidestand. Make sure the sensor and the parts line up as they should. And welcome to the forum! Please report back what you find. This is invaluable to others who may have the issues. Thanks man. Will do some checks on the battery terminal. Tried looking for the symptoms I’m facing on the service manual (not user manual) and what came up was possible issue with the clutch switch. So will take a look at that too. Will update once found the solution here for benefit of others who might face the same issue.
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Post by rracerfz10 on May 5, 2020 17:12:09 GMT -7
Yeah but some spade connectors and use a short piece of wire to make a jumper. I don’t think the clutch switch would cause the bike to shut off but it would cause the bike to not start while in gear with the clutch pulled in if it was bad.
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Post by ahmad0420 on May 6, 2020 13:25:37 GMT -7
UPDATE:
Today was worse. Started the engine as per normal, warmed it up to 70C. Moved out of my parking lot and the bike died when I clutched in to change to gear 2. I can drag gear 1, but once i change to gear 2, the bike died.
Cant specifically tell if the bike died when clutching in, or when kicking up gear 2. From then on, the bike would die everytime I kicked down from neutral to gear 1.
15-20 mins later after turning of and on the key, manage to start back the bike and get going. Up to gear 2. But just a short while before the engine died again. Didnt manage to kick to gear 3.
10 mins later, managed to get it going as per normal without dying again.
Feels like it got something to do with the heat. No issue when the bike i really warm.
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Post by rracerfz10 on May 6, 2020 16:43:00 GMT -7
That doesn’t make any sense. Running poorly when hot might mean bad coil pack but cold engine dies and won’t start up again? Idk maybe just replace the clutch switch and see if that fixes it. I can’t imagine its more than $30
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Post by ahmad0420 on May 6, 2020 20:20:10 GMT -7
That doesn’t make any sense. Running poorly when hot might mean bad coil pack but cold engine dies and won’t start up again? Idk maybe just replace the clutch switch and see if that fixes it. I can’t imagine its more than $30 Right? Nothing makes sense at all. Nothing happening with the bike is consistent. It won’t start up again at gear 1 with clutch in, but will start at neutral with clutch out. I want to say its the clutch switch, but the bike dies while moving as well, not just when starting up. Clutch switch only affects the starting up of the bike. I want to say its the sidestand switch, the bike dies consistently when I clutch in to change gear 2. What has the clutch or changing gear got to do with sidestand switch? Problem only solved with time, and restarting multiple times. Will send to workshop soon and get it checked out and update you guys.
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Post by rracerfz10 on May 6, 2020 23:13:06 GMT -7
Keep us posted man. Sucks you have to take it to a shop but at least it’ll be fixed.
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Post by ahmad0420 on May 9, 2020 22:26:02 GMT -7
UPDATE: Been 3 days without issue. And its been 3 days where it havent rained too. 😅
I park my bike outdoors so it gets hit by the rain when it pours. Will start the bike again once it rains again and see if it triggers the issue.
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Post by rracerfz10 on May 11, 2020 0:13:55 GMT -7
I park mine outside too. But a good cover. Like at least $100. It’s cheap insurance to protect your bike. Seats cable covers hoses tires all kinds of things deteriorate much faster if left in direct sunlight all the time Not to mention torrential rain potentially messing with electronics. Seriously, get a good motorcycle cover.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 15:34:06 GMT -7
It wouldn't be the first time I hear of water getting into the 'kill' switch housing causing those issues. The other possibility is the side stand switch, but doesn't sound like it is. I'd test that switch right away (just pour water on it), and change the right hand pod if that's the culprit, since I don't believe you can just replace the kill switch. It's dangerous to ride like that, especially when raining. Good luck.
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Post by ahmad0420 on Jun 1, 2020 6:53:02 GMT -7
UPDATE 1/6/2020: Just replaced the side stand switch. Let’s say what will happen with a few days of riding.
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Post by olivierzx on Jun 7, 2020 9:57:13 GMT -7
I've had the same problem on my MT09. It was due to the sidestand switch which had had grease (from sprocket) leaking and entering in it. (in summer)
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Post by ahmad0420 on Jun 11, 2020 9:48:29 GMT -7
Hi everybody! An update here.
Ever since I changed my sidestand switch, the problem doesn’t occur anymore. So it’s safe to say it’s because of that.
Do take note of the symptoms I posted just in case you face it the future. 😅
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Post by ahmad0420 on Jun 11, 2020 9:49:06 GMT -7
I've had the same problem on my MT09. It was due to the sidestand switch which had had grease (from sprocket) leaking and entering in it. (in summer) You’re right! Mine has that as well. Tons of grease.
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Post by rracerfz10 on Jun 11, 2020 17:32:29 GMT -7
Looks like I’ll be checking and possibly cleaning mine tomorrow.
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Post by natesnick on Apr 20, 2022 5:49:15 GMT -7
I think I may be having this issue now, my bike would die the exact same way. My bike would jerk though almost like it’s trying to power through it then slowly bog down.
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Post by k1kingdom on Jan 24, 2023 10:48:22 GMT -7
I may have the same issue also. I would start my bike and let it warm up. Then take off about a quarter of a mile to the stop sign down the way. Clutch in, bike dies and i would coast to a stop. Cut the bike back on and go on my way. Its funny because it would cut off almost every time at the same stop sign down the street from my house. I will take a look at the switch myself and see if that may be the problem.
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Post by natesnick on Feb 28, 2023 14:22:44 GMT -7
I replaced the switch and haven’t had an issue since!
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