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Post by rracerfz10 on Jan 14, 2020 2:24:03 GMT -7
I come from a background in old school sport bikes. I last serious ride was a 2002 CBR1100XX I bought in 2007 and owned for four years or so. More recently I’ve been into turbo cars. I had a 2009 Lancer Ralliart and now a 2018 Focus ST. Both of those cars were moderately modified and definitely tuned. I’ve been riding off and on for 20+ years and last Friday traded a 2005 SV650S towards a brand new leftover 2017 FZ10. I need to get used to the bike first I know and I will the weather here in northern AL sucks hard this time of year. The thing I’m curious about is with the bike being ride by wire and all the computer controlled everything would this bike, event being 100% stock benefit form a tune. I know turbo and n/a motors respond different to engine tuning but talk to a coyote mustang driver who’s had a tune and you’ll see the benefits of it. Ok long winded question and intro over. lol
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Post by gunnar on Jan 14, 2020 7:32:31 GMT -7
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Post by RedAndBlack on Jan 14, 2020 11:15:05 GMT -7
Welcome to the forum! This bike definitely responds well to a tune. The bike is factory limited to meet emission and noise standards, as are most 1000cc bikes being released these days. If you get an aftermarket exhaust, it's almost mandatory that you get some type of flash or other, the deacceleration popping is ear deafening and due to the EXUP valve, you may actually lose power on the lower end of the powerband without it.
Additionally, a tuner can put in a different throttle map which definitely helps out the twitchy throttle response. This was a BIG deal for me riding the bike in canyons, as I was having trouble with "maintenance throttle" through the corners because the throttle was too twitchy. My tuner smoothed the throttle out big time for me and gone are the days of lurching the bike forward mid corner on accident and setting up the possibility of flying through the air off of the highside of the bike.
I would say it's worth it, just figure out what exhaust upgrades, if any, you're going to get first and then check out an experienced flash tuner and check out our forum vendors for the services they provide..
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Post by hooli on Jan 14, 2020 16:28:27 GMT -7
I'm running this setup and enjoy it immensely.
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Post by smokinfz10 on Jan 14, 2020 20:18:34 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 14:27:05 GMT -7
Hey OP, you might want to wait at least a few months, and/or a couple of thousand miles, before messing with the ECU, in case your bike has an engine issue. But if you want to push your luck, you wouldn't be the only one . Good luck.
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Post by pc1978 on Jan 15, 2020 15:46:08 GMT -7
I just bought mine last week. It already had a cat delete and ECU flash, so I didn’t get to experience in stock form.
I am coming off a KTM SDGT and I think the throttle is as smooth. I rode it in mode 2 for the first couple of rides and mode 1 since then. About 300 miles this past week with plenty of twisty roads and have been happy with the throttle in mode 1.
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Post by rracerfz10 on Jan 22, 2020 0:17:36 GMT -7
Thanks for all the replies and I’ll check my chain when it gets above freezing and or isn’t raining. I hate winter here lol. As for the flash under warrenty I did my ST with 10,000 mikes on it buuuuurt I have a Cobb Accessport and can reflash to stock myself if I need to have any work done under warranty. I’ll most likely keep the stock exhaust. I like how it sounds and my last bike was so obnoxiously loud I’m enjoying the FZ’s “tame” exhaust note lol.
I know factory fueling on all new vehicles is lean for emissions so if a tune will make the bike run how it really should I’m in. Who is the most recommended here? Should I get a Powercommander and flash their off the shelf stock bike map? I had.a PC3 on both my old 98 VFR and 02 CBR1100XX back in the day some I’m somewhat familiar with them.
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Post by smokinfz10 on Jan 22, 2020 7:45:56 GMT -7
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Post by rracerfz10 on Jan 29, 2020 19:13:19 GMT -7
Yep, the chain was waaay out of adjustment. I’m getting the first service done Friday too. On a side note I got the Yamaha radiator guard and put it on today. The guard is fine but it’s held on by ZIP TIES! The zip ties were provided at least but I’m really underwhelmed that this is the best they could come up with. I’m going to get some safety wire and use that instead of the zips yamaha provided. I’m also going to hold off on the flash until I’m more used to the bike
I am considering getting the extended warranty as well. To cover the bike until it’s paid off. Has anyone gotten it? Can you comment on if you’ve had to use the extended warranty? Thanks for all the help too btw.
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Post by vstate60 on Feb 1, 2020 11:46:03 GMT -7
It’s like $5-600 to extend the factory to 5 years...just seems like a no-brainer.
Zip ties and safety wire are what holds together 90% of non-moving mass on your average track bike lol—you’ll be fine!
I’ve gotten used to the twitchy throttle and never really thought it was bad (most aggressive throttle mode/TC off), but the thought of holding off on the tune before getting used to the current state is a little counterintuitive as you’re going to have to re-learn the throttle application and possibly even engine braking/lack of. If you can stay away from riding for 3-4 days I’d just knock it out and get the thing flashed by 2WDW. I really need to as it’s been like four months but it’s the best time of year to ride in Fla and this bike is wayyyy too much of a good time to stay off for days and days. But just my $.02
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Post by vstate60 on Feb 1, 2020 11:49:44 GMT -7
Thanks for all the replies and I’ll check my chain when it gets above freezing and or isn’t raining. I hate winter here lol. As for the flash under warrenty I did my ST with 10,000 mikes on it buuuuurt I have a Cobb Accessport and can reflash to stock myself if I need to have any work done under warranty. I’ll most likely keep the stock exhaust. I like how it sounds and my last bike was so obnoxiously loud I’m enjoying the FZ’s “tame” exhaust note lol. I know factory fueling on all new vehicles is lean for emissions so if a tune will make the bike run how it really should I’m in. Who is the most recommended here? Should I get a Powercommander and flash their off the shelf stock bike map? I had.a PC3 on both my old 98 VFR and 02 CBR1100XX back in the day some I’m somewhat familiar with them. Just another comment on the ‘flashing back to stock’—in the automotive world the manufacturer can see how many times the ECU has been flashed. I can’t imagine it’s any different with our bikes. Just make a friend at the dealership!
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Post by rracerfz10 on Feb 3, 2020 2:31:23 GMT -7
Already did lol. The service manager used to race with my old boss so I’m good. Now for my final question about this. Do I go with 2WDW or Superbikeunlimitted? Not that it carries a bunch of weight but 650ib on YouTube had his ecu flashed with SBKunlimitted and was very happy with them. Then I’ve read all the posts here about how great 2WDW is.
Any thoughts or experiences you all can share will be very helpful. I have time though. I just got the first (600 mile) service done and I’m going to wait until the bike is fully broken in at more than 1,000 miles before I go getting a tune.
Thanks again!
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