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Post by jsantoli on Aug 12, 2019 14:35:05 GMT -7
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Post by RedAndBlack on Aug 12, 2019 14:44:51 GMT -7
It should, I don't think there's been any major changes to the MT-10.
The only thing that concerns me is that AR seems to have updated the other versions of their MT-10 exhausts on their website to include the 2019 model, but not this version. I also know we had a member on here that talked about a fitament issue with his. Best idea might be to reach out to AR before buying.
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 12, 2019 15:19:00 GMT -7
Thanks! I did send them 2 emails over the past week but no reply
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 14, 2019 11:39:28 GMT -7
What’s holding the pipe up? Just the springs?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 22:21:02 GMT -7
I noticed that too, and wouldn't like it either. That's what happens when you just adapt a random can to a bike. That's why I went with Graves (no springs, no bands, and a proper bracket; looks OEM). That system needs more work IMO.
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 15, 2019 9:52:12 GMT -7
That’s exactly what I have also, with the sticker removed too. I wish it were a little louder though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 11:56:41 GMT -7
The only thing louder than our slip-on (and just a little bit), while retaining the cats, would be just a tip... but it'd sound raspy as hell. And look weird too. Ha ha. Even the stock exhaust is already straight-thru, so it can't get too much louder than that. What I liked about the Graves is the awesome deep sound, especially around 3-4K rpm. It's actually borderline loud to me already, so you must really like loud exhausts. Ha ha. Don't like to piss off neighbors, attract undue attention to myself, and having to wash my gear/clothes after every ride due to awful fuel smell. Oh, and the extra expense of a mid-pipe, and tuning the engine (you have to). Graves has several cat eliminating systems while keeping the EXUP, if you want to go that route. Good luck.
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Post by dries on Aug 15, 2019 13:48:50 GMT -7
That’s exactly what I have also, with the sticker removed too. I wish it were a little louder though I was in the same boat as you, I wanted the GP1R. But then a forum member turned me onto the Competition Werkes exhaust. It's some hundreds cheaper and sounds the same if not better... Also has a sturdy bracket for mounting. Would 100% do the werkes again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 11:48:05 GMT -7
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 26, 2019 7:52:07 GMT -7
I looked at the competition werkes also. Kinda torn on what to get. I love the Austin racing look but I want it to mount up to the stock location for sturdiness. Wish they would answer their emails
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Post by gunnar on Aug 27, 2019 9:16:03 GMT -7
Well, lets try to get this thread back on topic again. The pipe comes with the can, an adapter tube, two springs, a clamp, and a db killer. Out of the box it already comes assembled, so installation takes a minute or so after removing the stock pipe. Obviously, this pipe does not have a bracket like a Graves or other slip-on designs. The only explanation as to why, is the assembly is fairly light, so the bracket just isn't needed. I will try to get a total weight for it later and edit this info in, but a rough guess is 1.5 to 1.75 lbs. I too was skeptical of this lack of a bracket, and of course the first thing I did after installation was grab at the can and attempt to move it. The most I was able to move it (with quite a bit of force) was about 1/2 millimeter to 1 millimeter measured at the end of the can. I removed the springs and looked at how the joint is assembled. The adapter pipe goes into the can 40mm deep, and the adapter tube butts up to the perforated tube and is held there with the springs. The pipe to can fit is quite tight, which is evident from the small amount of movement in this setup. The springs are not too difficult to install, and when assembled I could pull out the can maybe 1mm at the most, while twisting and pulling as hard as I could. After riding I could notice no looseness or sagging of the pipe. I even grabbed it with a rag and tried to move it while hot, and got the same amount of play, less than 1mm. I will assume that if you removed the bracket bolt holding on a Graves pipe, you would probably get no movement, being that is a one piece pipe, so why Graves even chose to put a bracket on their pipe if it doesn't even move anyway is beyond me, but they probably didn't want to hear any complaints from customers about removing a perfectly good bracket even if it isn't needed anyway. Alright, lets move on to the can. Total length is 9 inches, inlet diameter is 60mm, which continues all the way through the perforated section. This section is roughly 6 1/2" long. Packing appears to be the usual fiberglass.
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 27, 2019 13:28:39 GMT -7
How much does the dB killer quiet it down? With the car removed is it obnoxiously loud with out it?
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 27, 2019 14:40:27 GMT -7
I just did the cat delete pipe and ecu flash on my bike with the graves slip on but I still like the Austin racing look better. Especially the low mounted one but I don’t want it to be extra loud. I also peeled off the factory graves sticker that was red and orange and ordered this one from Graves instead.
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Post by gunnar on Aug 27, 2019 16:13:16 GMT -7
How much does the dB killer quiet it down? With the car removed is it obnoxiously loud with out it? AR says 98db with the killer, 101 without. Sort of like sticking a sock in it, I guess, I never put it in. With the cat box, it's not that bad, I think the neighbors will be OK. And yes, without the cat it is VERY loud 104-105 db. Here is a video: killer/no killer
The db killer I have is a bit different from that shown in the video, but I'm sure it does the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 22:39:58 GMT -7
I just did the cat delete pipe and ecu flash on my bike with the graves slip on but I still like the Austin racing look better. The Graves slip-on is the best looking, and best sounding IMO... BUT, with everything stock. It looks really weird with a midpipe, so I agree with your statement. Both are going to be stupid loud without the cats anyway, so I wouldn't worry about maybe 1dB louder with the shorter AR unit. And if AR offers a 'dB-killer' (do they?), it'd make even more sense, to quiet it down a little. Just make sure the fitment issue was (or can be) resolved. By the way, that gray decal definitely looks better than the yellow one, but I still prefer the stealth (or OEM) look, without anything. Good luck with the swap . PS. Hey, rotate the clamp, so it looks smooth (not showing the bolt). Look at my pic. Since you also removed the ugly seat strap, figured you'd like a clean look at the exhaust too. Ha ha.
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 28, 2019 8:45:08 GMT -7
I wanted to but the shape of the clamp and the closeness to the swing arm wouldn’t allow me to move it
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Post by gunnar on Aug 28, 2019 10:13:43 GMT -7
And if AR offers a 'dB-killer' (do they?) Here ya go (I mentioned it twice): Clamps rotated-check, seat strap gone-check, 12lbs lighter-check. At least with the butt plug, it sounds more like elp's ride.
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Post by jsantoli on Aug 29, 2019 16:00:42 GMT -7
Rode into work today with the danmoto midpipe and graves slip on. Man it’s loud. Wish there was a dB killer for graves
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Post by gunnar on Aug 29, 2019 16:03:47 GMT -7
Better stock up on socks
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Post by jsantoli on Sept 11, 2019 16:56:18 GMT -7
Gunnar what midpipe do you have to make the belly exit so low? I have a danmoto on mine
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