oldbob
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Post by oldbob on Jun 28, 2019 8:21:38 GMT -7
Hi all, I picked up my 2019 MT10 about a month ago and have almost 300 miles on it. Since new, there has been a loud ticking sound coming from the engine that I have found annoying and have wondered if it was normal. While looking thru the MT10 UK forum, I saw that someone who got their MT10 about a month before me has a trashed engine from cam parts being installed incorrectly at the factory. Their engine only had 160 miles on the clock. Has anybody heard of this? I'm a little afraid to ride the bike now and pretty sure the dealer is going to deny any problem. Does your 10 tick loudly? Thanks
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Post by addiction2boost on Jun 28, 2019 9:25:56 GMT -7
Mine ticks, hopefully it's normal. When I took it in to the dealer for it's first service (600 miles) I asked the tech to listen for the tick because it sounded a little loud to me. He said it's normal. If it makes you feel any better I'm at 4k miles now and it hasn't blown up yet haha
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Post by oldbob on Jun 28, 2019 10:56:46 GMT -7
Mine ticks, hopefully it's normal. When I took it in to the dealer for it's first service (600 miles) I asked the tech to listen for the tick because it sounded a little loud to me. He said it's normal. If it makes you feel any better I'm at 4k miles now and it hasn't blown up yet haha Thanks for the reply. I had a 98 Kawasaki Nomad with an auto cam chain tensioner that would get pretty loud before it tightened up. Have a 2015 Kawasaki Vaquero with a lifter that sounds like the engine is coming apart when the oil drains out of it. The noise goes away after a few miles of warmup. Being that Yamaha doesn't give you but a year of warranty (1 season) it's a gamble to go without an extended. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 12:38:35 GMT -7
Hey OP, are you new to motorcycles? If yes, they're typically quite a bit louder than cars, so you know. But how about posting a short video/sound clip? We could tell you if your bike sounds like ours, for greater piece of mind. Take a few seconds on a cold start, and a few other seconds when fully hot (220ºF+), walking around the engine, with the microphone close to the engine, but not next to it.
And no, I haven't heard of another engine 'blowing up' at only 160 miles, and due to defective cam parts. Interesting. Mine sits at 870 miles now, so guess I cleared that hurdle. Ha ha.
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Post by oldbob on Jun 30, 2019 4:58:30 GMT -7
Hey OP, are you new to motorcycles? If yes, they're typically quite a bit louder than cars, so you know. But how about posting a short video/sound clip? We could tell you if your bike sounds like ours, for greater piece of mind. Take a few seconds on a cold start, and a few other seconds when fully hot (220ºF+), walking around the engine, with the microphone close to the engine, but not next to it. And no, I haven't heard of another engine 'blowing up' at only 160 miles, and due to defective cam parts. Interesting. Mine sits at 870 miles now, so guess I cleared that hurdle. Ha ha. I've been around bikes a long time. Currently own 3. Suzuki, Kawasaki, and now Yamaha. I agree, motorcycles make more racket than cars. Or, with motorcycles the engine is exposed so, you hear the noises. The clutch basket on my Suzuki sounds like a bowel full of marbles until you pull the clutch in. However, it's normal as are lots of other noises. It's important to know what's normal and what isn't so, your suggestion to record the suspect noise and compare to others is a good one. We're in monsoon season here so opportunities to ride are rare but, I went out to the garage yesterday with an audio recording app on my iPhone to do as you suggested.
The bike had not been run in a week so, I was expecting a lot of ticking. Lo and behold when I started it up, the ticking was gone and the engine was quiet as a mouse  ?? I'm suspecting that this engine has an auto cam chain tensioner or some other "normal" mechanism that exhibits ticking intermittently. I'm still gonna keep an eye on this and welcome comment from others. |
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Post by bigkurka on Jun 30, 2019 18:11:42 GMT -7
Hi there oldbob, Your description of your bike's noise sounds like my bike. I can start it up cold and its quiet as can be I can even let it idle and get hot and still no noise. Once I ride down the street a couple of hundred feet and come to a stop noise is there. On my bike it'll usually continue to make the ticking rattle noise until it get good and hot, usually after riding 5-7 miles and will usually go away. Sometimes it will come and go though. My bike is a daily rider and pretty much every time I ride I'll hit triple digits for a brief moment. I just passed 3000 miles and my bike runs strong and smooth. Your bike's noise is most likely normal. Hope this gives you a little piece of mind
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Post by oldbob on Jul 1, 2019 10:06:08 GMT -7
Hi there oldbob, Your description of your bike's noise sounds like my bike. I can start it up cold and its quiet as can be I can even let it idle and get hot and still no noise. Once I ride down the street a couple of hundred feet and come to a stop noise is there. On my bike it'll usually continue to make the ticking rattle noise until it get good and hot, usually after riding 5-7 miles and will usually go away. Sometimes it will come and go though. My bike is a daily rider and pretty much every time I ride I'll hit triple digits for a brief moment. I just passed 3000 miles and my bike runs strong and smooth. Your bike's noise is most likely normal. Hope this gives you a little piece of mind Thanks bigkurka. What you're seeing/hearing may be the same for me and others. Next time I take her out, I will see if it's the same as your experience. that's what's great about forums like this. Learning from the experience of others. |
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Post by harri183 on Jul 1, 2019 10:59:05 GMT -7
5k and mine ticked from day one sounds like it’s about to detonate but it’s just the design of the engine. Trying 15w 50 oil to see if that makes any difference some say it does others not. Just wear a good quality helmet and ear plugs and jobs a good un.😁
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Post by evitzee on Jul 1, 2019 12:18:55 GMT -7
They're all different. Over 8,000 miles on mine and its never ticked. Just lucky perhaps.
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Post by 7kings on Jul 1, 2019 12:28:47 GMT -7
Although I only have 100 miles on mine (picked it up Saturday afternoon), it definitely ticks. When I first took it out for a test ride it was one of the first things I noticed. Not too worried about it, especially after reading so many other folks here and elsewhere saying that theirs makes the same sound.
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Post by hooli on Jul 1, 2019 12:36:58 GMT -7
My 2018 ticks.
My 2016 R1 ticks.
My 2004, 2002 & 1999 R1 ticked.
None have blown up...it's a Yamaha thing.
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Post by wingnut03 on Jul 1, 2019 19:49:39 GMT -7
I have 7000 mi. cam chain tentioner was noisy from day one,fresh oil shuts it up for about 200 mi. on the plus side it is better than both my zx9rs you want to hear loud sounded like a bag full of bolts flying around in there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 10:46:08 GMT -7
Sounds like a cam chain tensioner 'characteristic' to me too. I don't know if the tensioner works with oil pressure or not (no external line though), but if it does, thicker oil like 15/50 or 20/50 only makes the problem worse folks (lubricates/flows less, not more). It might be good to know those with a 'tick' which oil they're using, to see if there's a pattern or not. I'm using Castrol P1 4T 5/40, and zero 'tick' issues so far (870 miles), cold or hot. It's actually quieter cold, as expected with 5/40 vs 10/40 oil. Bottom line is some bikes are going to be noisier than others (even with the same oil), so as long as the noise is not obviously cringeworthy, and not getting worse, I wouldn't worry about it. I've owned noisy bikes too, and never an issue with them. Good luck.
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Post by cp3ryder on Jul 2, 2019 23:40:19 GMT -7
I have a 2018 that I just bought last month and have the same issue. It did this since day one and I now have 600 miles on it. It's quiet on a cold start, but as soon as you get going down the road and put a load on it the noise starts. It sounds more like a tapping sound than a ticking sound and is embarrassingly loud. After the engine heats up for a while it quiets down a little but is still loud enough to hear clearly while riding. I bought a manual cam chain tensioner and will install it once I get home from work in Sept.
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Post by oldbob on Jul 3, 2019 3:49:49 GMT -7
Sounds like a cam chain tensioner 'characteristic' to me too. I don't know if the tensioner works with oil pressure or not (no external line though), but if it does, thicker oil like 15/50 or 20/50 only makes the problem worse folks (lubricates/flows less, not more). It might be good to know those with a 'tick' which oil they're using, to see if there's a pattern or not. I'm using Castrol P1 4T 5/40, and zero 'tick' issues so far (870 miles), cold or hot. It's actually quieter cold, as expected with 5/40 vs 10/40 oil. Bottom line is some bikes are going to be noisier than others (even with the same oil), so as long as the noise is not obviously cringeworthy, and not getting worse, I wouldn't worry about it. I've owned noisy bikes too, and never an issue with them. Good luck. Your theory of the oil flowing more freely when cold makes sense but when the bike is first started, the oil should be in a drained down state. Maybe it's a temperature thing. As the engine heats up, thermal expansion causes certain parts to loosen. I plan to test this theory over this holiday weekend. The bike has been pretty much sitting in the garage for a week and a half so, the baseline should be well established. As others have stated, it doesn't appear to be a source of critical failure, just an annoyance. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 18:31:27 GMT -7
Yes to both. A cold engine has all oil at the bottom, and thinner oil starts lubricating parts quicker upon start up. And engine tolerances are optimal when at operating temeprature, not when cold. That's why cold behavior doesn't worry me much, other than most of the engine wear happens at start up (hence using thinner oil when cold to maximize flow/lubrication and minimize wear). So yes, noises and behavior when fully hot should worry you more, since that's the state the bike is running most of its time. Bottom line is few vehicle owners understand the intricacies of engines and lubricants well, and their vehicles do just fine, so all of this crap (oil type/brand/viscosity, fuel brand, etc), falls into the preference category IMO. But as with everything in life, some things are better than others, and it's fun to discuss that. He he. Anyway, please let us know of your findings. And take short sound clips if you can. Happy 4th.
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Post by jbdickey on Jul 21, 2019 17:57:55 GMT -7
I took mine in for 600 mile checkup it ticks totally normal with this r1 motor. Can be a little annoying with helmet off.
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Post by travist67 on Aug 15, 2019 16:10:26 GMT -7
I'm glad this thread is here. I just picked up a '19 MT-10 today. Took it for a quick spin, about 25 miles or so. Noticed a ticking sound coming from the engine, following the revs of the engine. Glad to read that it's most likely normal. Man, that exhaust sounds badass even stock. I stopped at one light and downshifted as I was coming to a stop and heard a really sweet rumble and thought someone was riding up my @ss for a second there in an old muscle car until I realized it was my bike making that sound. WOOT!!!  |
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Post by fjrchuck on Aug 15, 2019 19:06:25 GMT -7
I'm glad this thread is here. I just picked up a '19 MT-10 today. Took it for a quick spin, about 25 miles or so. Noticed a ticking sound coming from the engine, following the revs of the engine. Glad to read that it's most likely normal. Man, that exhaust sounds badass even stock. I stopped at one light and downshifted as I was coming to a stop and heard a really sweet rumble and thought someone was riding up my @ss for a second there in an old muscle car until I realized it was my bike making that sound. WOOT!!! A little different than the Harley, Travis? Congrats on the new ride and don't be a stranger to the YNFI ride club my friend!  |
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Post by travist67 on Aug 16, 2019 10:26:39 GMT -7
I'm glad this thread is here. I just picked up a '19 MT-10 today. Took it for a quick spin, about 25 miles or so. Noticed a ticking sound coming from the engine, following the revs of the engine. Glad to read that it's most likely normal. Man, that exhaust sounds badass even stock. I stopped at one light and downshifted as I was coming to a stop and heard a really sweet rumble and thought someone was riding up my @ss for a second there in an old muscle car until I realized it was my bike making that sound. WOOT!!! A little different than the Harley, Travis? Congrats on the new ride and don't be a stranger to the YNFI ride club my friend! Hey Chuck! Long time, no ride together. Yes, a "little" different than the Harley. :-) Maybe I can make the next YNFI trip now that I have a bike that has the capability to keep up with you guys for more than 2-3 seconds. |
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?? I'm suspecting that this engine has an auto cam chain tensioner or some other "normal" mechanism that exhibits ticking intermittently. I'm still gonna keep an eye on this and welcome comment from others.
