motostein
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Post by motostein on Feb 21, 2019 6:03:34 GMT -7
So a phsyco EX g/f got ahold of my keys during a fight and being jealous of the true love of my life (2018 mt10 with 4000 miles) with full graves pipe comfort seat and bought the graves tuner, and the crazy bitch poured a crapload of salt in the tank unbeknownst to me. Left and made it 4 miles before it died! Took it to dealer next day thinking a warranty fuel pump, after tearing entire motor apart finding crap in the fuel, determination was needs fuel pump and all new piston rings, for 3700!!!! Didn't have the cash so bike is in my living room in a million pieces! My question is this.... Dealers work order said nothing about removing oil pan to pull rod caps to get pistons back into the sleeve section of the head, is there ANY WAY to get the pistons back into the sleeve portion of the head without pulling the rode of the crank?¿? Obviously need someone who has torn one completely apart which I know is rare! HELP PLEASE
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Post by thefinn on Feb 21, 2019 6:28:33 GMT -7
Damn, what a psycho...
Look at it from the bright side, now you know to never let her anywhere near your life again.
All I can help with is to say that there is a PDF service manual somewhere in this forum. Good luck with restoring your pride and joy!
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motostein
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Post by motostein on Feb 21, 2019 7:17:03 GMT -7
Damn, what a psycho... Look at it from the bright side, now you know to never let her anywhere near your life again. All I can help with is to say that there is a PDF service manual somewhere in this forum. Good luck with restoring your pride and joy! ya I have the service manual I was just hoping for someone with first hand experience to calm me down and walk me through it! But thanks for the moral support! |
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Post by thefinn on Feb 21, 2019 7:59:39 GMT -7
Maybe ask in a R1 forum? I mean the engines are similar enough that you might get away with that.
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Post by ghostrider1127 on Feb 21, 2019 8:23:23 GMT -7
here the Workshop manual , drive.google.com/open?id=0BwKobrluzNwYV2ZtYThTUndqWTAtook apart few engines , but never tryed to operate like you describe. I will just refit the pistons with the new rings on the cylinder block using 4 ring clamps . luckily in this engines the cylinder block it´s removable and not part of the crankcase |
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Post by RedAndBlack on Feb 21, 2019 10:09:18 GMT -7
Holy shit.
Dude take that bitch to court.
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Post by hooli on Feb 21, 2019 15:36:46 GMT -7
Pour salt in her hoo-haw and see how SHE likes it.
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motostein
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Post by motostein on Feb 25, 2019 14:51:47 GMT -7
Maybe ask in a R1 forum? I mean the engines are similar enough that you might get away with that. yeah I've researched that avenue as well and unfortunately or actually thankfully for most fz Mt owners there just aren't really any or enough engine failures out there since 2016 to really have many people with full teardown knowledge yet! |
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Post by thefinn on Feb 25, 2019 14:57:49 GMT -7
Sweet, no worries for the engine to fail as long as i lock up the salt whenever im not using it  There was this one guy on here who had his engine blow up due to (i believe it was) a piece of debris from the factory in the oil system, clogging it up. I dont think he rebuilt the engine though. |
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Post by ghostrider1127 on Feb 26, 2019 9:49:35 GMT -7
As i wrote due my job and tuning illness a took apart few engines of R1 and Mt10 still did not get why you cannot remove the cylinder block and make the whole job easy...
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Post by wingnut03 on Mar 16, 2019 14:58:05 GMT -7
Hi,your best option would be to just replace the engine,There is an fz10 engine on flea bay right now OR..this might be a good excuse to install an R1 engine
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motostein
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Post by motostein on Apr 4, 2019 11:35:09 GMT -7
As i wrote due my job and tuning illness a took apart few engines of R1 and Mt10 still did not get why you cannot remove the cylinder block and make the whole job easy... the cylinder sleeve was removed by the shop,who didn't even bother to clean the engine first, so all four piston's are still connected to the crank and flopping around in the case and I'm trying to figure out if I can get the cylinder sleeve back on like that or if I need to pull the piston's of the crank too. The shops estimate didn't give any clue either way and I asked them and they wouldn't even let me talk to the tech |
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motostein
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Post by motostein on Apr 4, 2019 11:38:07 GMT -7
Hi,your best option would be to just replace the engine,There is an fz10 engine on flea bay right now OR..this might be a good excuse to install an R1 engine all it needed was new rings ad and only has 4k miles on it! Not ever doing any track days the R1 is pointless to me and from what I've read not at all street comfortable. |
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Post by blmitchem21 on Apr 7, 2019 15:59:39 GMT -7
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Post by kohtachi on Feb 21, 2020 20:18:18 GMT -7
So i replaced piston rings on a inline four engine in my younger days. From what i remember you can't, you need to pull the pan off to get to the bolts that hold your rod to the crank. He probably just but it back the way he had it was taken off. The tech did you a favor, if he was going to reuse the sleeves you need to but it back on the same way it was put on because of wear. And he prob didn't put the rings back on the piston heads because it more work, so that is why its prob flopping around in there. I just looked at the service manual and it appears to have all the specs to do the work. Don't forget to re-hon the walls and check specs. Then you need to go through a engine break in period again to reset the rings. So if your doing all this some people replaced for different stronger heads and rods to increase compression ratio, then you need to re-tune ecu..... If you have nothing but time and patients... go for it... but personally i would just get another engine or have that guy do it for 3700.
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Post by rracerfz10 on Feb 21, 2020 20:50:44 GMT -7
Who wants to bet she’s a red head? I don’t get where chicks get off thinking they can do shit like this and get away with it. I’d call the cops and have her ass thrown in jail. Sorry I can’t be of any help with repairing the engine but I’d say buying a complete engine and swapping it out would be world’s easier than rebuilding. You’ll never be sure you got all the salt or whatever out. Replace the fuel system too. Pump lines injectors etc.
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