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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 18:02:01 GMT -7
Hi there, i just got my bike back from the shop. I had them install lowering links from Soupys in the US. 2" lower rear and .75" forks (they recommended anywhere between .3" 50 .5" per 1 inch).
I was wondering whether anyone happens to know the math of how this has impacted my wheel base? I expected there would be an impact, but not sure how much.
I feel much more confident when stopping and manuvering the bike at slow speeds.
If the wheel base is affected dramatically, i may raise the rear back up 1 " and front fork tubes down ~.35
Thanks much
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 18:42:10 GMT -7
More than the wheelbase (which you indeed reduce, but a negligible amount IMO), what you affect the most by lowering like that is suspension action/behavior and cornering clearance. I don't understand what you meant by '0.3" 50 0.5" per 1 inch', but sounds like an equally undesirable method like changing links. With a lowered bike, you also need to consider its reduced suspension travel, to avoid bottoming out too easily (dangerous), but only you can tell us if it's a concern. A progressive spring would take care of that, by the way. Did you feel any difference in handling? You're the one who needs to judge any undesirable handling characteristics, since this is the first time I hear about lowering the FZ/MT-10. Hopefully you won't have to spend any more on a better lowering method. Hopefully somebody with a better understanding on that can chime in. Or even better, somebody in your shoes. Good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 5:04:53 GMT -7
More than the wheelbase (which you indeed reduce, but a negligible amount IMO), what you affect the most by lowering like that is suspension action/behavior and cornering clearance. I don't understand what you meant by '0.3" 50 0.5" per 1 inch', but sounds like an equally undesirable method like changing links. With a lowered bike, you also need to consider its reduced suspension travel, to avoid bottoming out too easily (dangerous), but only you can tell us if it's a concern. A progressive spring would take care of that, by the way. Did you feel any difference in handling? You're the one who needs to judge any undesirable handling characteristics, since this is the first time I hear about lowering the FZ/MT-10. Hopefully you won't have to spend any more on a better lowering method. Hopefully somebody with a better understanding on that can chime in. Or even better, somebody in your shoes. Good luck. Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback. This is the amount the front forks are supposed to be slid up thru the upper tree in an attempt the level the bike: 2" lower rear and .75" forks (they recommended anywhere between .3" 50 .5" per 1 inch). It was 6 degrees Celsius out, so I rode home at a modest pace. I’ll definitely observe the suspension handling in the spring. I may also raise it back 1” so that will affect the suspension again, so before I consider whether I need to replace the spring, I’m looking forward to riding it more. The clearance was affected for sure, but not sure looking forward to what extent as I intend to replace the link pipe and can with an Akro. Thanks so much again |
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Post by evitzee on Oct 25, 2018 8:18:30 GMT -7
I've never been a fan of lowering links as it causes issues with the geometry and suspension which can have real effects on handling. I assume you lowered it to get closer to the ground. What is your inseam? I have a 29" (74cm) inseam but have never had any issues with the FZ-10 or any of my prior bikes. I've never been able to get both feet flat on the ground but that is of no concern, when I roll to a stop I just put the right foot down and support the bike, I keep the left foot on the peg. Maybe you just need a bit more practice. Make sure you recalibrate the suspension in the spring as your prior settings will most likely be off. And how did you deal with your sidestand, it will usually be too long after lowering which means the bike stands up straighter when parked, making it a bit more unstable.
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Post by aperture296 on Oct 25, 2018 9:17:47 GMT -7
I am also around 29 in the inseam. I will admit that occasionally I do wish it was half an inch lower as I've gotten used to doing the seat slide dance and all the other crap short tirders have to deal with bigger bikes. I think it would not be a bad idea to keep it lower until you get more comfortable with the weight of the bike and then bringing it back up. 2 inches of drop can do some gnarly things to the ride if the suspension settings are not also tuned for the decreased travel. Keep us updated!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 12:26:32 GMT -7
I've never been a fan of lowering links as it causes issues with the geometry and suspension which can have real effects on handling. I assume you lowered it to get closer to the ground. What is your inseam? I have a 29" (74cm) inseam but have never had any issues with the FZ-10 or any of my prior bikes. I've never been able to get both feet flat on the ground but that is of no concern, when I roll to a stop I just put the right foot down and support the bike, I keep the left foot on the peg. Maybe you just need a bit more practice. Make sure you recalibrate the suspension in the spring as your prior settings will most likely be off. And how did you deal with your sidestand, it will usually be too long after lowering which means the bike stands up straighter when parked, making it a bit more unstable. I’ve owned over 40 bikes and spent quite a few years road racing competitively, so I was used to having to line my bike up in the starting grid and with many of the bikes, I would 1 foot it until I launched. I’ve only ever lowered 1 bike (a road bike 16 Aprilia Tuono Factory) that I could’ve ridden at the stock height as well, but I really like having the MT10 lowered as well for stop and go traffic. I don’t have the time to go for longer rides, so the only way I can get 2,000-3,000 kms in per year is to ride to work and run errands around town. I’m 5.7 with a short inseam for me height and I prefer wearing lighter race type boots which mostly have thinner soles rather than some of the thicker Harley style boots I tend to wear when Ive owned my Harley’s. |
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