nmerique
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Post by nmerique on Oct 19, 2018 22:18:46 GMT -7
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Kameo
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Post by Kameo on Nov 20, 2018 2:30:33 GMT -7
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The O’ring in his coolant pipe perished @ 16,000 km’s and created a leak.
I’m on 20,000 so I’ve been keeping an eye on mine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 11:53:17 GMT -7
Good to know this could be an issue, to keep an eye on it. Thanks. On the above video, maybe the fall (on the water pump side) accelerated the leak (10K miles). Who knows. Looks like a hard to reach area, so the radiator has to come out, correct? If this happens at 25K miles, good time to replace the coolant.
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Post by Kameo on Nov 20, 2018 12:16:46 GMT -7
Yeh that’s what I was thinking....re the fall and accelerated leak or... the climate he rides in. He’s from Queensland which is a fairly warm/hot part of Australia. I’ve spoken with his dealer and shared this info with my dealer in Sydney along with his warm startup issue after parking in the heat(above 30 degree Celsius day). Falls on deaf ears, even though I’m having the same startup issue...only occurs in summer.
His dealership - team moto in Enogra Queensland seem like a knowledgeable bunch. Just wish they weren’t 12 hours away. I’ve lost respect for those we have in Sydney.
I’ve recently had my bike in 3 times for coolant/heat/fan issues (issues only arose only after it was serviced @ 20,000km by Yamaha) and even though they acknowledge something’s not right they continue to disregard the info I’ve passed on from a different Yamaha dealership.
Yamaha Australia dealerships(syd) are mostly crud, not sure what they are like everywhere else.
I’m sure now that my bikes just out or warranty they’ll be more likely to finally fix things but at my cost.
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Post by sylvaknight on Feb 28, 2019 6:30:53 GMT -7
Hey mate, origannly bought my SP form Enoggrah, can’t say I had a great experience with them, bike was scratch and wasn’t even cleaned when I picked it up. They wouldn’t honour a quote I had for a new jacket either. The sales man from the get go was a good guy and good at contact but the experience of my first new bike being like that left a bad tast in my mouth. Now I service with Northstar. I currently have the exact same issue with the coolant leak, only my pipe is cracked and they have to order it from Japan, 2 weeks the only thing grinding my down at the moment is they won’t honour it as warranty and are saying it’s on me to pay for it. Have you found anyone else with this issue. I have 13,000 km on mine. My friend has a 15 model and has 42,000 and his is leaking aswell. How’s tou go about the claim
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Post by Kameo on Mar 7, 2019 12:36:15 GMT -7
Hey mate, origannly bought my SP form Enoggrah, can’t say I had a great experience with them, bike was scratch and wasn’t even cleaned when I picked it up. They wouldn’t honour a quote I had for a new jacket either. The sales man from the get go was a good guy and good at contact but the experience of my first new bike being like that left a bad tast in my mouth. Now I service with Northstar. I currently have the exact same issue with the coolant leak, only my pipe is cracked and they have to order it from Japan, 2 weeks the only thing grinding my down at the moment is they won’t honour it as warranty and are saying it’s on me to pay for it. Have you found anyone else with this issue. I have 13,000 km on mine. My friend has a 15 model and has 42,000 and his is leaking aswell. How’s tou go about the claim So its confirmed then they are all the same. Mine was filth when I picked it up brand new from team motto, scratched panels as well. Be firm with them, organise to drop the bike off and advise them you want it fixed under warranty. Call head office and ask to speak with the state rep, think his name is Duilio (NSW REP) and send all the details via email. Include links to posts with this problem. Enograh service centre are aware of the problem as they fixed wozzas bike under warranty and advised me of this over the phone. Good Luck with it. keep in mind the problem circling around is related to a perishing O’ring in the coolant pipe and not a crack in the radiator. Email CustomerRelations@yamaha-motor.com.au ps. Not sure who the rep is for Queensland, just send an email to the above address with details and provide your contact number, ask them to contact you by phone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 10:49:19 GMT -7
Now the question is if there's a better O-ring out there to replace it with, maybe butyl, or one of those fancy materials. They shouldn't fail at 20K miles, no? But at least it seems to be an easy fix. It'd be a good time to change it as a precautionary measure, along with the coolant, during a valve inspection/adjustment, no? Even if it's another OEM one. Valve adjustment is at 16K miles, correct?
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Post by dertymt on Mar 16, 2019 2:12:10 GMT -7
Just to let you guys know, they did fix warrens bike but it's started doing it again. I go for rides with him and he said thousands of kms later and same thing. My 2018 does it too, some sort of vapot lock with the fuel pump. Make sure you take it to them when it's hot out and you re create the issue, don't leave it to them to do it. Or take a video like I did and show them.
And regarding the coolant leak, apparently they fixed the issue on newer models. Was poor quality material used for the oring. But that's just what I've heard from Yamaha, grain of salt and all that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 11:10:40 GMT -7
My 2018 does it too, some sort of vapor lock with the fuel pump. What are you talking about? This thread is about coolant leaks. No fuel issues discussed before your comment.
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Post by dertymt on Mar 16, 2019 14:55:22 GMT -7
My 2018 does it too, some sort of vapor lock with the fuel pump. What are you talking about? This thread is about coolant leaks. No fuel issues discussed before your comment. Yeh my bad guys, had multiple threads open in different tabs. Lost track of which one was which.
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Post by gsxwetodddid on Aug 26, 2019 4:42:07 GMT -7
Just hit 26K on my 17, and have a large leak from the same location. it actually took a me a few months to find it because i couldn't trace the fluid back. This is definitely something that Yamaha should have listed in the manual to check at the 20K miles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 11:12:55 GMT -7
I'll probably have less than 20K when it's time to replace coolant, so will replace those O-rings for sure at that time. Hopefully won't have a leak before that. Please keep us posted how easy (or hard) it was to replace those suckers. And any 'gotchas', or tips, to remember . Oh, and apparently the O-rings were upgraded, so this shouldn't be an issue anymore. Make sure to buy the latest ones. Good luck.
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Post by gsxwetodddid on Sept 9, 2019 17:35:01 GMT -7
Welp the leak saga continues, I have taken my bike the dealer that I bought it from and they did conform that the leak was coming from the hose connections where o-inns were being used. They also replaced some clips, likely heat cycled to the point where they deformed and needed to be replaced after taken apart. Now I got it back and they said that they heat cycled it in the garage and found everything was holding.
When I went to pick it up, the paperwork showed that they did not test ride my bike prior or signing off on it. It was rush hour on a Friday so traffic would have been too heavy for them to really load and unload the bike and check for leaks. So I told them I’ll test ride it and report in if there are any issues (probably the worst choice but it is what it is). Welp after really riding for about 2 hours straight and smelling coolant the whole time I checked the reservoir and found that it was practically empty.
I called them the next day and the told me top off the reservoir as it may have been an air bubble that vented out. Well rode it today to and from work and found that the level dropped still. Does anyone have any ideas where I could still be leaking, I can’t seem to find any evidence of drops or condensation where the parts were replaced.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Sept 10, 2019 9:00:00 GMT -7
Welp the leak saga continues, I have taken my bike the dealer that I bought it from and they did conform that the leak was coming from the hose connections where o-inns were being used. They also replaced some clips, likely heat cycled to the point where they deformed and needed to be replaced after taken apart. Now I got it back and they said that they heat cycled it in the garage and found everything was holding. When I went to pick it up, the paperwork showed that they did not test ride my bike prior or signing off on it. It was rush hour on a Friday so traffic would have been too heavy for them to really load and unload the bike and check for leaks. So I told them I’ll test ride it and report in if there are any issues (probably the worst choice but it is what it is). Welp after really riding for about 2 hours straight and smelling coolant the whole time I checked the reservoir and found that it was practically empty. I called them the next day and the told me top off the reservoir as it may have been an air bubble that vented out. Well rode it today to and from work and found that the level dropped still. Does anyone have any ideas where I could still be leaking, I can’t seem to find any evidence of drops or condensation where the parts were replaced. I've had the dealer fuck up my coolant change pursuant to a blown water pump. Hit 245+ only 2 blocks away from the dealer. My suggestion to you would be to do this since they probably didn't burp the system, just filled it with coolant. 1. Fill up your reservoir to normal level. 2. Take off your radiator cap 3. Start the bike 4. Start squeezing all of the hoses connected to the coolant system to burp air bubbles. They will travel through the system into the radiator and eventually be pushed out as your coolant expands 5. Stand the bike up briefly as the coolant is almost to the top of the radiator so you don't get any air trapped in the opposite corner. This probably isn't necessary since the radiator cap is highest but its something I do. 6. When the coolant has sufficiently expanded and reaches the top, maybe give another squeeze to one of the bigger hoses and then put the radiator cap on. Don't worry if a little bit leaks. 7. Check the reservoir and make sure it didnt run dry. If it ran dry, you have to do it again. Coolant expands with heat so don't top it off until the bike is cooled off or you may overfill it. I leave my coolant level closer to the low line to avoid overflow if the coolant expands too much in high heat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 20:17:22 GMT -7
Hey GSX, RedAndBlack gave you a pretty detailed procedure. Just remember you have air in your system still, so keep an eye on the reservoir often, and keep it topped off, until the system stabilizes. Remember to top it off with the bike VERTICAL. And preferably try not to remove the hose attached to the cap from the coolant, or you might let air into the system. Not a big deal, but it'd take a couple of cold/hot/cold cycles to suck that coolant back into the hose. Use a thin funnel, and top it off. Good luck, and please keep us posted. Wish there was a dealer I could trust where I live, but I don't. The 'best' dealer, where I bought my bike, overfilled my oil by 1 quart, didn't tighten the battery connections properly, and dislodged a rubber bumper from the seat. Tell me if you'd trust that tech with anything more intricate. Ha ha.
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Post by dilldough on Sept 14, 2019 11:12:23 GMT -7
I would agree that they probably didn't burp the cooling system based off my little experience. I just reached 19k miles and developed a coolant leak due to the failed o-ring. My dealer replaced the o-ring, coolant pipe, and clamps. I was able to watch and talk with the tech as he finished up the work. He did mention that after initially filling with coolant and running the bike that the system still needed burped and it was getting hot very quickly. He said there was a bolt on the top side of the water pump cover that allows the system to be burped fully and topped off.
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Post by hypernaked on Sept 25, 2019 15:25:29 GMT -7
Did the o-ring coolant gremlin get me too? 2017 FZ-10 Under 12,500 miles on the odometer.
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Post by dilldough on Sept 28, 2019 12:09:08 GMT -7
Did the o-ring coolant gremlin get me too? 2017 FZ-10 Under 12,500 miles on the odometer.
I would say yes it did. Are you still in warranty?
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Post by hypernaked on Oct 13, 2019 6:43:36 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply. Luckily I bought the 4 year warranty. It just had it's 3 year birthday. Whew!
I just received my bike the other day.
There's a radiator leak from around the radiator cap.
I'm thinking 1) the cap has a leak and needs to be replaced or 2) too much coolant was added.
What's your guys take?
What's the remedy?
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Post by wrecklessralph on Oct 20, 2019 3:24:46 GMT -7
Same leak here. Looks like a relatively easy fix. Anyone know the o’ring part numbers?
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