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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 13:57:31 GMT -7
While looking for a Yamalube chain lubricant under 2017 FZ-10 (more on that below), also saw foam filter cleaner and oil, and gauze filter cleaner. My question is what the hell do we have in there? Is there a cotton gauze filter with a foam sleeve, like on dirt bikes, or what? And more importantly to me, is there any paper filter alternative? Oiled air filters are proven to filter much worse than a paper filter, and that's why it's rare to see any OEM use one. Surprised Yamaha did, and on a street bike. Anyway, living in the freaking desert, where it's windy and dusty basically all year, I want better protection for my motor. Even if that means a handful of HP less at the top end. Also wondering how much disassembly is needed to get to the filter. Comments welcome.
Before signing off, and to avoid starting another new thread, Yamalube lists 2 chain lubes suitable to our bikes: on-road chain lube, and full synthetic chain lube. Which one do you guys use? Both cost practically the same. Thanks. JC
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Post by evitzee on Oct 12, 2018 14:54:06 GMT -7
Our bikes don't have oiled filters, just a dry one that should be replaced at 24,000 miles per the Owner's Manual (unless you live in very dusty areas). Getting to it is not a two minute operation. Service Manual tells you what you need to do.
I don't think many people use Yamalube chain lube. Lot's of people use Maxima Chainwax which I used to use, but it is too messy, imo. Switched to Tirox Synthetic Teflon Infused Chain Wax about 3 years ago and won't go back. Goes on clean, dries clear, will not fling. Most dealers don't carry it, but Amazon does. I have a new can in the mail as we speak.
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Post by clayton on Oct 12, 2018 20:05:27 GMT -7
Second the triox chain stuff. It works awesome. Wheel stays clean. Stock filter is paper in the fz/mt. No oil needed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 0:57:18 GMT -7
Great news on the air filter. Wonder why all parts websites I checked list air filter oil and cleaner solutions for the FZ/MT-10 when it doesn't have it. But relieved it's paper. And no, I won't wait until 24K, which is a lot. Will probably do it at 10K or 2 years, whichever comes first.
And thank you for the chain lube recommendation. Will order that one too. Can it be applied with a microfiber rag, to avoid making a mess spraying it? I haven't owned a chain-driven bike in ages (all shaft-driven), but I remember cleaning the chain with WD-40 first, then spraying chain lube on another rag and putting it on every other ride. Chain was holding up very well, but sold the bike before a chain wears out, so couldn't tell if I was shortening its life with my method or not (comments welcome). I'm planning on ordering a stand (or stands) this weekend, to be able to leave bike on the air when not in use, and easily clean/lube the chain. I'm leaning on the Abba, since it costs less than 2 good stands, and it's less bulky to store, but need to read more about stand choices. Don't want a cheapo that can fail, but don't need a super sturdy one either. Schooling on that welcome too. He he. Thanks gang.
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Post by evitzee on Oct 13, 2018 11:27:45 GMT -7
A lot of people use WD-40 for chain cleaning although some think it isn't good for the 'o' rings, but don't think that is proven one way or the other. I use kerosene put on with a small paintbrush and a quick run through with a Grunge Brush, then wipe it down and let it dry. Since I ride in dry weather only and don't have too much dust or debris on the road I only clean it about once a year. I'll lube it every other ride. You could spray Tirox on a microfiber towel and install it that way, or just use a piece of cardboard behind the chain and spray away. If you use a plastic straw to apply it you won't get much overspray.
Abba's are good stands and are versatile, but not exactly cheap. A favorite for riders in the US is Pitbull which comes in various configurations. One thing is certain with a Pitbull, you'll never need to buy another stand, they are built to last, easy to use, and will lift and keep your bike in the air with no wiggle or shake. A rear stand is about $150 but will last forever, a front stand is also available. Is there a particular reason you want to store the bike with both wheels off the ground? Not really necessary and in my view just puts added stress on the frame, swingarm or whatever lift points you are using. I prefer to have the 465 lbs on the ground supported by the tires and the sidestand. Just stay away from the cheap Chinese made stands that are crap and are always looking for a reason to dump your bike off of them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 12:56:11 GMT -7
I was only thinking of leaving bike on the air with the Abba, since they're the only ones I know of that lift the bike from the main frame, like if bike had a center stand, so no extra stress or danger at all. But you're correct: I wouldn't leave the bike on the air (other than for replacing tires) with any other stand, due to spools and adapters not being sturdy enough for that job, including Pitbulls. Now, you said the Abba is very expensive, which it is, but not if you compare it to TWO Pitbull stands, which cost basically the same. And even as a previous Pitbull owner, I'd choose the Abba in a heartbeat for the same price. Not only the bike is MUCH more stable, but the stand requires a lot less space to store. Yes, it's more cumbersome to use, but maybe an extra minute or two more. Not a big deal to me. Having said that, I'd prefer to spend less in a good set, and by that I mean a sturdy one with good ratings. Need something suitable for the job, not overkill (if I decide for overkill for lack of decent alternatives, would get the Abba, not Pitbulls). On that note, saw this set: www.motodracing.com/race-stands?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgNaPi46E3gIVRrjACh3qSgUzEAQYBCABEgJnX_D_BwEThey're aluminum, look really cool, and are rated very well. What do you guys think? Would like a testimonial from an actual FZ/MT-10 owner. I also saw a set not long ago that the front tucks into the rear, so you only need the space of one stand for storage. Pretty clever, and they also looked nice and sturdy, but forgot to bookmark them, and can't find them. Hey, you know what? I'm going to start a new thread about this (best stand other than Pitbull. He he), for the future benefit of the membership. Nobody expects to find stand info on an air filter thread. Ha ha.
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Post by mikem73 on Oct 21, 2018 17:35:33 GMT -7
WD/40 all day every day been using it for 15 years never once had a chain break or rust!
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