loopme1
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Post by loopme1 on Sept 20, 2018 16:05:16 GMT -7
Hey yall
Approaching 3000 miles, noticed I have been using some oil. Running fine, been using non synthetic yamalube 10-40 on dealers recommendation. No leaks, is this normal? Doesn't seem like a brand new performance machine should be burning oil.
What do yall think?
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peripateticmike
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Post by peripateticmike on Sept 20, 2018 16:49:08 GMT -7
First of all, some oil consumption is normal in all internal combustion engines. Second of all, the owners manual states full synthetic. I would listen to the manufacturers who engineered the thing over what a dealership recommends.
How much consumption are we talking about here?
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loopme1
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Post by loopme1 on Sept 20, 2018 16:53:57 GMT -7
First of all, some oil consumption is normal in all internal combustion engines. Second of all, the owners manual states full synthetic. I would listen to the manufacturers who engineered the thing over what a dealership recommends. How much consumption are we talking about here? Fair enough on all points, the techs at the dealer said to use non synthetic until after 4000 mile service? As far as amount of consumption, let's say top of the "full" line to "low" line over the last 800 or so miles. I have done a few oil changes and it's enough to notice. I was thinking about taking it in for its service early to make sure all is well. |
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Post by peripateticmike on Sept 20, 2018 17:11:58 GMT -7
Yeah I would say that's excessive. I ride mine pretty hard and after 1500 miles it's maybe dropped a couple centimeters. Asking dumb questions, but you're letting the bike sit long enough for it to all drain back to the sump. And are you certain the bike is level?
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Post by loopme1 on Sept 20, 2018 17:29:03 GMT -7
Yeah I would say that's excessive. I ride mine pretty hard and after 1500 miles it's maybe dropped a couple centimeters. Asking dumb questions, but you're letting the bike sit long enough for it to all drain back to the sump. And are you certain the bike is level? I can't imagine what would be causing it to burn oil excessively... I'll make sure that I let the bike sit long enough before I check the level again, but when I do my oil changes, I definitely am missing half a quart, maybe more. I think I did my last change after running it 1500 miles? I have been known to be paranoid about my vehicles. Worth taking to dealer you think? |
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Post by evitzee on Sept 20, 2018 19:10:33 GMT -7
The dealer probably won't be able to tell you anything if there are no obvious leaks so not worthwhile taking it to them for a look-see. Forget what the techs told you, the manual says full synthetic and that's what you should use. Change to full synthetic and carefully fill to the full mark, run the bike for a few miles and then let the bike cool and note the level. That's your baseline. Then monitor useage from there when the bike is cold. That will tell you if you have an issue, I suspect you are fine. Mine hasn't used any oil and I've not heard that there is any sort of issue with this engine. All of this is made much easier if you have spools and rear tire stand, that way the bike is always level and makes for easy monitoring (and makes general maintenance like tire pressure check, chain adjust/lube, etc much easier).
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Post by loopme1 on Sept 20, 2018 20:05:00 GMT -7
The dealer probably won't be able to tell you anything if there are no obvious leaks so not worthwhile taking it to them for a look-see. Forget what the techs told you, the manual says full synthetic and that's what you should use. Change to full synthetic and carefully fill to the full mark, run the bike for a few miles and then let the bike cool and note the level. That's your baseline. Then monitor useage from there when the bike is cold. That will tell you if you have an issue, I suspect you are fine. Mine hasn't used any oil and I've not heard that there is any sort of issue with this engine. All of this is made much easier if you have spools and rear tire stand, that way the bike is always level and makes for easy monitoring (and makes general maintenance like tire pressure check, chain adjust/lube, etc much easier). Deal. Will take these steps tomorrow, thank you guys 🤘😎🤘 |
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Post by RedAndBlack on Sept 20, 2018 20:29:39 GMT -7
This makes complete sense. You're using conventional oil which burns off much quicker than synthetic.
Make the move to synthetic and I bet you won't have as much burn off.
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Post by peripateticmike on Sept 20, 2018 21:08:07 GMT -7
More than likely your bike is fine. I am a long time automotive dealership technician. I can't speak for MC manufacturers, but all vehicle brands have a protocol for monitoring an oil consumption issue with their engines. If no external leaks, the only way to lose oil is to burn it. Either past valve seals or piston rings. If you are truly losing that much oil, definitely take it to the dealer for analysis.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 18:43:23 GMT -7
Keep us posted of your oil consumption now that you'll do it more accurately. I also suspect you're not going to have that much consumption, but let's wait for results. Check it at exactly 1K miles. It'd also be good to know exactly how much is between the min and max lines, to know consumption. But make sure you start at exactly the full mark, and check it always fully cold, and at the same spot, with the same stand (or whatever you're using). You want to use exactly the same method throughout your test, to eliminate any other variable. Most manufacturers say up to 1 quart every 1K miles is normal, but that's crap IMO. I bet you'll have a lot less than that, but keep us posted. Good luck.
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