morbo
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Post by morbo on Aug 31, 2018 8:09:46 GMT -7
Let's start with the basic disclaimer stuff... I'm not an expert, not a professional, just a guy who did these steps and it worked... if you follow these steps, hopefully it works for you too. If it doesn't, I'm not responsible for whatever happens - the harness doesn't work, you fry the ECU somehow, you open a portal to another dimension and alien unicorns conquer our planet... stuff like that. You're doing this at your own risk!Tools:Wire strippers/cutters Needle-nose pliers Molex crimping tool (not required) Soldering iron (recommended, not necessarily required) Parts used:4-pin connector ( link to part used; pin/wire size = 22-16AWG; insulation/seal size = 1.3-1.7mm) OBD-II Cable ( link to part used) For the parts, if you have the spare wire sitting around, you can save a few bucks and buy just the female OBD-II connector and just run the 4 wires you'll need between the OBD-II and 4-pin connectors. You'll need to know what size wire you have in order to buy the proper 4-pin connector though. Of the 16 wires on the OBD-II connector ( OBD2C), only 4 are being used: - Pin 4 (Chassis ground; orange wire on OBD2C)
- Pin 6 (CAN [J-2234] High; green wire on OBD2C)
- Pin 14 (CAN [J-2234] Low; brown w/white stripe wire on OBD2C)
- Pin 16 (Battery power; green w/white stripe wire on OBD2C)
Again, I'm not proclaiming to be a pro, if you feel the need to criticize, by all means build one yourself and write up a better DIY.1) Based on other guides, it was recommended to twist the pairs of wires. With this in mind, I removed the sheath and shielding from the wires on the OBD2C and separated the 4 wires to be used. I zip-tied the remaining 12 wires to keep them out of the way. 2) The first problem with the parts I used is the wires in the OBD2C are 26AWG and the pins for the 4-pin connector ( 4PC) are sized for 22AWG so the wiring isn't quite big enough. The wires come pre-stripped with about 1/8" exposed. I stripped off more until it was about 3/8" exposed then folded it over on itself and twisted it to "thicken" the wire to better fit the pin. The 4PC kit comes with 4 rubber seals; slide one over each wire. 3) On the pins for the 4PC, there are 2 pairs of prongs (for lack of a better/proper term), one pair is folded over the exposed wire, the other pair is folded over the seal. Insert the exposed wire to line up in the front/first pair of prongs. The pic shows how small the wiring is compared to the pin connector itself. I had to use my needle-nose pliers to hold the wire in place for the next step. 4) I chose to solder the wire to the pin connector. I preferred the solid connection of the solder, plus the wire is so small I'm not sure how I could've crimped the prongs down over the wire without the solder holding it in place. My soldering skills leave a lot to be desired, but I've been doing it for various little projects on my bikes and luckily have been successful so far. Here's a YouTube video with some tips/tricks which I've found helpful.Pardon the horrible photo; I took several and this was the "best" one. 5) For this step, if you have the proper Molex crimping tool then crimp the connector over the wire. I didn't want to spend the money on a tool I only intend to use once. Using needle-nose pliers, at an angle, squeeze on one of the prongs to start folding it over onto the wire. Repeat for the other prong. YouTube to the rescue - here's a video I used to help with how to crimp the prongs over the wire. For extra measure, I used the pliers to crush the prongs down a bit further; admittedly, it's probably overkill at this point. 6) Slide the rubber seal up so that it fits between the 2 back prongs, use the same technique as before to fold the prongs over the seal. 7) I don't claim to know why, but in the other "how-to's" I used to create the harness, I saw it recommended to pair off the wires (in specific pairs) and twist them together. Pair off the wires in the following manner: - Pin 4 (orange) / Pin 16 (green w/white stripe)
- Pin 6 (green) / Pin 14 (brown w/white stripe)
Sorry... no photo of just the wires paired/twisted
8) Insert the pins into the 4PC in the following orientation (see pic below):
- Pin 14 (brown w/white stripe) > connector slot A
- Pin 6 (green) > connector slot B
- Pin 16 (green w/white stripe) > connector slot C
- Pin 4 (orange) > connector slot D
I inserted the pin through the rear of the connector and then used the needle-nose pliers to pull the pin and lock it into the connector - you'll hear an audible click once it locks into place.
All done!
Successfully tested/used to check an error (I created myself ) and clear it. If something doesn't make sense let me know and I can try and take a photo of it or better explain.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Aug 31, 2018 9:06:12 GMT -7
Awesome write up!!!! Will help a lot of people out for sure.
Just curious about the estimated cost. About $15 would you say?
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morbo
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Post by morbo on Aug 31, 2018 12:04:33 GMT -7
Total was $17.27 w/shipping for the 2 parts I purchased.
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Post by harri183 on Sept 13, 2018 14:36:33 GMT -7
The reason for twisting the wires is to balance them so you don’t get interference from external sources. I believe they have to have the correct number of twists over a given distance. For the purpose of this I can’t see it been a problem. Good little project.
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Post by exuptoy on Nov 4, 2018 7:16:02 GMT -7
Nice job and I have taken it one step further but only because the OBD2C lead which I purchased had an issue with pin 16 (power) and would not power up my scanner. So, because my scanner was a cheap ass eBay job which cost me around £8 a long time ago ($10.40), I decided to cut off the original OBD2 plug and just fit my Sumitomo 4 pin plug direct to my scanner. Incidentally the Sumitomo 4 pin plug sold in the UK is the Sumitomo MT090. The only difference then was the colour codes of the wiring inside my scanner plug. Pin 14 (brown w/white stripe) > connector slot A is now Blue Pin 6 (green) > connector slot B is now Purple Pin 16 (green w/white stripe) > connector slot C is now Yellow Pin 4 (orange) > connector slot D is now Green I hope you are ok with my linking other Yamaha and MT10 sites to this page. Here's the completed pics.
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Post by ant84 on Nov 20, 2019 1:00:39 GMT -7
Hello. I am from Indonesia, I want to ask for the 16 pin obd cable path to Yamaha that only uses 3 cables, because in Indonesia Yamaha vehicles use 3 cables not 4 cables like in your country. Thank you for the help
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Post by obdmoto on Nov 20, 2019 5:43:57 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 15:31:30 GMT -7
I paid $30 shipped (from England) for mine, on eBay. OEM quality. Not worth the hassle and time for $12+ IMO, but to each his own. OBDMoto seems to cost about the same as I paid, which makes it a no-brainer IMO . If there wasn't a cable available anywhere, like for Suzuki motorcycles, then it'd absolutely make sense to make one from scratch. My cousin has been looking for one for a while, and nothing.
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Post by morbo on Nov 22, 2019 16:15:59 GMT -7
I paid $30 shipped (from England) for mine, on eBay. OEM quality. Not worth the hassle and time for $12+ IMO, but to each his own. OBDMoto seems to cost about the same as I paid, which makes it a no-brainer IMO . If there wasn't a cable available anywhere, like for Suzuki motorcycles, then it'd absolutely make sense to make one from scratch. My cousin has been looking for one for a while, and nothing. That was kind of the point of my DIY. There weren't any cheap adapters out there. This was over a year ago and the cheapest option was ~$45, IIRC. If I didn't need the adapter until now, I'd buy the OBDMoto as well.
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Post by obdmoto on Nov 24, 2019 5:06:31 GMT -7
I paid $30 shipped (from England) for mine, on eBay. OEM quality. Not worth the hassle and time for $12+ IMO, but to each his own. OBDMoto seems to cost about the same as I paid, which makes it a no-brainer IMO . If there wasn't a cable available anywhere, like for Suzuki motorcycles, then it'd absolutely make sense to make one from scratch. My cousin has been looking for one for a while, and nothing. After automatic discounts our Yamaha cable should come out around ~$20 shipped to the US -- a bit late for you but just in case anyone else is reading! Which Suzuki does your cousin have, out of interest? That seems very frustrating if it's a recent model year.
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Post by obdmoto on Nov 24, 2019 5:18:27 GMT -7
I paid $30 shipped (from England) for mine, on eBay. OEM quality. Not worth the hassle and time for $12+ IMO, but to each his own. OBDMoto seems to cost about the same as I paid, which makes it a no-brainer IMO . If there wasn't a cable available anywhere, like for Suzuki motorcycles, then it'd absolutely make sense to make one from scratch. My cousin has been looking for one for a while, and nothing. That was kind of the point of my DIY. There wasn't any cheap adapters out there. This was over a year ago and the cheapest option was ~$45, IIRC. If I didn't need the adapter until now, I'd buy the OBDMoto as well. Thank you -- it's because of great people in this community like you who are willing to share this kind of information that we're able to do what we do.
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Post by mrcdharwood on Nov 24, 2019 8:15:35 GMT -7
I was the same so made my own too and started selling them. £12 posted which is about $15.
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Post by mariuszki17 on Jan 9, 2021 14:12:44 GMT -7
Hello, the display in MT10 2019 has broken for me. I bought a new mileage counter and would like to set the mileage to 8000 miles. What interface should I buy that supports this function?
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Post by willl84 on Jan 9, 2021 18:05:57 GMT -7
Hello, the display in MT10 2019 has broken for me. I bought a new mileage counter and would like to set the mileage to 8000 miles. What interface should I buy that supports this function? You'd have to go to a dealer to find out if this is even possible to do. This diagnostic tool is just for the standard engine parameters like on your vehicle. If it is possible to do I'm sure it's dealer-only software
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