fr44man
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Post by fr44man on May 27, 2018 18:18:51 GMT -7
Hello Everyone!
Traded my XSR900(awesome bike, loved it) yesterday with 2017 fz10.
Right from the beginning Engine trouble warning light was on, and it is still on after 266KM!
Yes, that's how far the dealer was from my place
I did not have time to check with dealer, I assumed it will go off as bike was brand new.
Did anyone experienced same issue?
We have another dealer in the city, will check also with them Monday.
located in Halifax, NS, Canada
Thanks!
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Post by papawheelie on May 27, 2018 19:11:40 GMT -7
Unfortunately, it seems to be a common issue, and one that is posted regularly. It happened to me, too, the second day that I owned it. That was when I learned that there is no easy onboard diag code display or anything. Pretty much have to take it to the dealer to get the codes read, or buy an OBD code reader.
Mine was an EXUP flapper thingy (whatever it’s called) that was stuck open. They lubricated it, put it back together and it’s been fine ever since (9,000+ miles later).
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fr44man
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Post by fr44man on May 27, 2018 19:29:56 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply papawheelie ! It's good to have some idea. It is no harm to engine I assume? Will call the dealer tomorrow.
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Post by papawheelie on May 27, 2018 20:09:24 GMT -7
Well, the EXUP being stuck open is not an issue at all. Not saying that’s what is causing your engine light to be on, though. It does suck that we can’t check codes on the dash display.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 6:53:58 GMT -7
I just bought my brand new leftover 2017 on Friday. Shortly after riding off the lot my check engine light came on.
Took it back and dealer told me it was exhaust code. Flapper was stuck closed. They took it apart and lubed it. Code went away for about 20 miles but has come back.
Taking it back to dealer Tuesday.
Guess this is a common issue.
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Post by evitzee on May 28, 2018 9:07:47 GMT -7
Luck of the draw, I've had mine for 18 months and I've had no check-engine-light situations, nor any problem with the cruise control which also seems to pop up as an issue.
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Post by papawheelie on May 28, 2018 9:21:58 GMT -7
I just bought my brand new leftover 2017 on Friday. Shortly after riding off the lot my check engine light came on. Took it back and dealer told me it was exhaust code. Flapper was stuck closed. They took it apart and lubed it. Code went away for about 20 miles but has come back. Taking it back to dealer Tuesday. Guess this is a common issue. Sheesh. That’s frustrating!
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fr44man
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Post by fr44man on May 28, 2018 18:26:50 GMT -7
Talked to the dealer today, they had same issue on some fz10's, not all of them. Made an appointment for next weak. They must read the codes as mentioned here, and I was told that as long as light is not flashing, I can ride. Well I have already 450 kms on it in 2.5 days Possible that will end up doing first service as well same time.
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Post by kingcrimson on May 28, 2018 18:58:56 GMT -7
Unfortunately, it seems to be a common issue, and one that is posted regularly. 1st, ANY problem with the EXUP (exhaust unlimited power valve) will throw a error out to the ECU and trigger a failure to the amber engine check-light.
And papa . . . man up dood! You're obviously a mole and most likely working for Kawi or Sue (surfing our turf) or one of those other "inferior" motorcycle manufactoids.
Yamaha is KING! Especially when it comes to building guitars and pianos. So there, dood . . .
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Post by av8er on May 28, 2018 19:18:21 GMT -7
Unfortunately, it seems to be a common issue, and one that is posted regularly. 1st, ANY problem with the EXUP (exhaust unlimited power valve) will throw a error out to the ECU and trigger a failure to the amber engine check-light.
And papa . . . man up dood! You're obviously a mole and most likely working for Kawi or Sue (surfing our turf) or one of those other "inferior" motorcycle manufactoids.
Yamaha is KING! Especially when it comes to building guitars and pianos. So there, dood . . .
I think he was stating fact that continued use with the valve stuck open won’t hurt anything. Also that not necessarily was his engine light caused by this. Several members have wired their exup open after disconnecting their cables.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 21:37:44 GMT -7
I'm considering an MT-10, so reading a lot about them. Besides the exhaust codes, also read about sidestand codes... although there's a TSB for that already, so don't understand why dealers didn't check the bikes before releasing them. Anyway, it's another option. Hopefully that's your case OP. Good luck.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 6:39:07 GMT -7
So I took my bike back to the dealer yesterday so they could read the check engine code again and order the part. They ordered a new servo and cleared the light.
Funny thing is the light has not come back on yet, LOL.
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Post by fr44man on Jun 2, 2018 10:29:28 GMT -7
My Appointment is scheduled on June 5, 3 days to go and i'm on 900+ km on bike. have to do the first service as well, hope everything works out well. Will update the post.
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Post by kingcrimson on Jun 2, 2018 10:32:42 GMT -7
I think he was stating fact that continued use with the valve stuck open won’t hurt anything. Also that not necessarily was his engine light caused by this. Several members have wired their exup open after disconnecting their cables. Wow dood, are you for real? I mean . . .
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Post by fr44man on Jun 5, 2018 9:18:06 GMT -7
Went to see the dealer today, First service, engine trouble light and inspection They told me the engine light was related to o2 sensor, they cleaned the codes and all gone. I was told it was there from history(no idea how... ). Good thing is - it is gone now, everything looks good. First service is done as well, I rev high now I had o2 sensor issue with my xsr900 as well, dealer just replaced the sensor at the end(under the warranty), and that's the only issue i had on my XSR900 with 15k kms. Hope will not see the light in the future (will ask them to just replace o2 sensor). Thanks for all the comments and help!
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Post by falcodave on Jul 4, 2018 11:48:05 GMT -7
2400 miles, no issues until today, engine warning light came on this morning. Going to get it to the dealer tomorrow and will report back. Hopefully something Exup related
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Post by falcodave on Jul 8, 2018 15:18:39 GMT -7
Dealer said it was related to the side stand , and also the bike having been stalled (?). Said there was nothing from Yamaha about it, so he put some chain lube on the pivot, cleared the light and all set. Kinda voodoo wrenching to me, and strange that a side stand issue trips a check engine light
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Post by evitzee on Jul 8, 2018 15:53:42 GMT -7
Dealer needs to look at Technical Bulletin M2016-006 dated 11/10/2016, 'Side Stand Switch Fault Code P1601'. It's a well known issue that applied to 2016 FJR1300 and XSR900G models, and some early 2017 FZ-10H models. The ECU needs a reflash or you may have the problem again. The side stand switch circuit is a safety item which is why it can trigger the fault code when it detects a fault. It is a false fault on these bikes as there is nothing wrong with the safety circuit but it is related to how fast the ECU powers up and how quickly you turn the ignition key. The slower you turn the key in the lock the more chance you will trip the code. According to Yamaha if you take more than one second to turn the key you can trigger the code, the reflash changes the time allowed to turn the key from 'off' to 'on'.
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Post by falcodave on Jul 9, 2018 2:09:23 GMT -7
I’ll dig into it, very much appreciated. Thanks
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Post by fz10minesrdripper on Dec 19, 2018 12:42:47 GMT -7
I think he was stating fact that continued use with the valve stuck open won’t hurt anything. Also that not necessarily was his engine light caused by this. Several members have wired their exup open after disconnecting their cables. Wow dood, are you for real? I mean . . .
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