daver
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Post by daver on Apr 23, 2018 11:36:38 GMT -7
Hey Guys.
New here, just got an 18 MT-10. I'm going to be putting on some heated grips, and they came with a plug and play connector, but I'll be damned if I can find where they plug into! I've checked the service manual, but can't seem to figure it out. Any help could be great, as I don't want to tear the whole bike part.
Thanks!
Dave
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 24, 2018 0:58:16 GMT -7
I don't know much about heated grips but I would think that they would be like most other electronic accessories, they should connect to the battery. There might be an intermediate wire that you're missing that goes from the plugs coming from the grips and stretches the length of the bike to connect onto your battery terminals. That wire would be aftermarket as well, meaning you'd have to buy and install it yourself. I never heard of this bike being ready capable of plug and play warmers unless it's on the UK versions that I'm unaware of.
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Post by daver on Apr 24, 2018 5:27:20 GMT -7
The Fz09 and MT10 have a heated grip plug in the harness so that they are relayed.
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Post by morbo on Apr 24, 2018 9:35:17 GMT -7
I don't know much about heated grips but I would think that they would be like most other electronic accessories, they should connect to the battery. There might be an intermediate wire that you're missing that goes from the plugs coming from the grips and stretches the length of the bike to connect onto your battery terminals. That wire would be aftermarket as well, meaning you'd have to buy and install it yourself. I never heard of this bike being ready capable of plug and play warmers unless it's on the UK versions that I'm unaware of. I've got the Yamaha heated grips on my FZ-10. RedAndBlack is correct, they connect to the battery. The left-hand grip has 2 connectors running off it. One is to connect to the right-hand grip and the other is to connect to the wiring harness which runs back to the battery. In my pic below, you can see the connection for the 2 grips (above the key cylinder), and can sort of see the connection for the wire harness which runs back to the battery (slightly bigger connector, underneath the grip connectors). This video goes through the install very well. |
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Post by daver on Apr 24, 2018 10:51:35 GMT -7
The kit does comes with the wiring harness to run to your battery, but there was a recommended accessory part number BS2-F62B0-V0 that lets you tie into the factory harness. Same as the FZ09. Just didn't know where the factory plug on the harness was. I'd rather use the factory harness if that's an option.
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Post by mario on Apr 24, 2018 11:26:28 GMT -7
Daver is right, there is a proper factory wiring loom in the UK you can buy to avoid connecting direct to the battery. Images of the heated grips & additional Yamaha loom below....   The black connector of the loom attaches to the heated grips and the white connector attaches to the bike, however I can't tell you where exactly as I've not done it. |
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Post by daver on Apr 24, 2018 11:48:53 GMT -7
Exactly, thanks for the pictures. I'm just trying to prevent tearing the bike apart looking for that damn white plug.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 24, 2018 12:58:30 GMT -7
I did a quick check on the part # for the wiring harness, everything I could see says its specific to the FZ09 only so maybe we don't have that connection? If we do, I imagine it would be the same as for the FZ09, which looks like the wire is taped to the wiring harness under the side of the tank. It looks like the left (clutch) side  |
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Post by daver on Apr 24, 2018 13:26:44 GMT -7
Yea, Yamaha isn't much help either. If you get to the grips from their site, they recommend this harness, but don't list where to run it. I have a suspicion that the OEM 12 volt plug has "used" the the auxiliary plug that was an option for the FZ-09.
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Post by morbo on Apr 24, 2018 13:49:56 GMT -7
Sorry for the misinformation, I misunderstood what you were looking for. I remember when I purchased my heated grips the Yamaha site listed that wiring harness as a required part, but the part description stated it was for the -09 only so I didn't buy it.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Apr 24, 2018 14:56:37 GMT -7
Yea, Yamaha isn't much help either. If you get to the grips from their site, they recommend this harness, but don't list where to run it. I have a suspicion that the OEM 12 volt plug has "used" the the auxiliary plug that was an option for the FZ-09.
That could be a likely idea, they repurposes it for the 12 volt plug. Let us know what the result is! Might save some others the trouble in the future. Good luck with it!
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Post by mario on Apr 25, 2018 3:03:21 GMT -7
Have you tried asking the mechanics at your local Yamaha dealership? I'm sure they have fitted a few and will help out.
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Post by mario on Apr 25, 2018 4:44:51 GMT -7
I have a suspicion that the OEM 12 volt plug has "used" the the auxiliary plug that was an option for the FZ-09. I don't think you are right about that mate, and there reason I say that is in the pictures below. You can see that in the images below the female connector for the 12v DC socket is on the bike, where as the heated grip loom I posted an image of above has the female end on the heated grip loom, which means you are looking for a male connector on the bike. Also, the MT-10 Touring is more likely to be sold with heated grips than the MT-09, so you would expect Yamaha to have the heated grip connector on all MT-10 bikes since the tourer was released, as they will all use the same wiring loom from the factory. Note. the 2nd image below shows the factory male connector cut off and spliced into the guys home made wiring, as he was replacing the 12v DC socket with a USB socket. My guess is the male connector you are looking for is under the tank somewhere. Thread these images were taken from is here.... mt10ukoc-forum.boards.net/thread/165/dc-power-outlet-usb-socket  |
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Post by mario on Apr 25, 2018 5:37:20 GMT -7
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Post by daver on Apr 25, 2018 6:36:54 GMT -7
Have you tried asking the mechanics at your local Yamaha dealership? I'm sure they have fitted a few and will help out. Unfortunately they've only sold a couple, and haven't gotten into any. I did ask, and was told somewhere between the headlight and the battery by a rather smug service guy. I know the harness was released before the fz-10 so I wonder if that's why it isn't listed. Yamaha's website isn't exactly a work of modern engineering. The MT-07 and Tracer 07 aren't on that list, and they do have the plug. |
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Post by owle on Apr 25, 2018 7:02:46 GMT -7
Had my heated grips fitted to the MT 10 before i took delivery, UK bike, wired directly to the battery by the supplying dealer ..... not the best grips to be honest, i would go with oxford grips if i had to choose again.
Tracer 900 heated grips are plugged in to the wiring loom and you can set the heat settings through the dash, 3 different heat levels with 10 settings on all 3 levels, best heated grips i have used.
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Post by mario on Apr 25, 2018 7:04:26 GMT -7
Hmm, well a friend of mine has just bought a 2018 MT-10 with only 750 miles on the clock (ex demo) from a dealer with heated grips installed by them. I have spoken with him and he said he looked under the seat while viewing the bike and there were no signs of any wiring for the heated grips. Apparently the sales guy told him they don't connect direct to the battery and connect them somewhere at the front of the bike.
He is due to get it in a couple of weeks, so I can check for you when he gets it if you have not sorted it out by then. Other than that, I am out of ideas. Been searching high and low online and all I can confirm is that the 12v DC socket uses a different style of connector as shown above in the pictures, so if there is a proper connection for them in the loom it is somewhere else.
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Post by daver on Apr 25, 2018 7:26:48 GMT -7
Thanks for digging Mario. At this point I'm just annoyed Yamaha doesn't describe it better.
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Post by evitzee on Apr 25, 2018 10:33:35 GMT -7
Makes me happy I live in TX, for the few months it is chilly I still don't need heated grips or seat.
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Post by arkenskooter on May 7, 2018 18:53:56 GMT -7
If I am not mistaken, the connector is on the left side. If you look at the left O2 sensor and follow it up to where it connects, there is also an open white connector that seems like it would fit the heated grip connector. I came across this when removing my O2 sensors, since I took off the CAT. Search for the Topic FZ-10 ECU and O2 sensor removal and follow the directions from SLV. Look at the second picture on the post dated December 29, at 2:34 p.m. where it says to pull the boot back from the connector. The harness for the warmer is inside that boot if I am not mistaken.
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