theestate
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Post by theestate on Apr 1, 2018 15:42:27 GMT -7
Purchased the FZ10 July 20, 2016 for $12,499. Driven 13,600 miles. Mean fuel mileage is 37 in a range of 27.7 mpg to 43.7 mpg -- the low range being track days. Elevation is 4,500 feet and above. The mean price per gallon here is $2.75 over the 13,600 miles in a range of $2.12 to $3.26 per gallon. I only use octane 91. Uphill, downhill, track or open road, maximum speed is 143 mph (gps). The speedometer is most accurate of any bike I have owned. The speedometer is about 1.5 mph faster than indicated by gps. Grateful for Indian motorcycles - otherwise the FZ10 would be the most horrific looking motorcycle allowed on public roads. I purchased the FZ10 for the motor and sold my FZ1. Missing the centerstand, premium mirrors, rear frame handles, and windscreen of the FZ1. Ride on.
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wayneo
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Post by wayneo on Apr 9, 2018 15:09:03 GMT -7
I'm looking for a used modded one. The styling doesnt do it for me either. I may do a partial winter pixxel camo wrap in places. The Pyramid Plastic side panels cleans up the front side area. I put a SW-MOTOTECH centerstand on my FZ09.. As of yet I haven't found one for the FZ10.Peace, Wayne-O
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redshlrt
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Post by redshlrt on Apr 10, 2018 15:36:24 GMT -7
Your MPG info has me not quite as worried as I once was when it came to long day interstate hauls. I assume that's in standard mode with cruise control and generally behaving yourself?
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Post by papawheelie on Apr 10, 2018 16:44:24 GMT -7
For comparison...
I’m in the Phoenix metro area. Elevation is about 1,100 feet, where it gets most of its miles. I’ve taken it on a few short rides out of town, closer to 6k elevation. Bought mine in October 2017. Put 6,500 miles on it so far. I also use only 91 octane of the name brand stuff. I haven’t kept enough data to calculate mean fuel efficiency or fuel price. But I’ve recently been paying about $3.10 for it. The computer says that I’ve averaged 34.1 mpg during that 6,500 miles. I don’t know how accraute it is, but it’s probably reasonably close. I use my FZ-10 primarily as a daily commuter with a mix of city and highway — more highway some weeks, when I commute to our store location that results in a 100 mile round trip. Low-fuel light usually comes on between 90 and 100 miles. I’ve put as many as 135 miles on a tank of fuel. Mode A (B is just too twitchy).
I ride somewhat (kinda, a little bit, depends on the day, might get arrested) conservatively by nature. My job depends on a clean MVR and good driving habits. That said, I did get pulled over for the first time in about 20 years on the way to work the other morning. Motorcycle cop said I was doing 85 in a 65 (and I was). I was well-behaved and he gave me a warning. I have not flashed the ECU, which seems to adversely affect fuel efficiency, from what I’ve read. I’m not in a hurry to, as it goes plenty fast, and pops wheelies even when I don’t intend to. I’ll probably get it done anyway, for the other benefits (besides removing the governed top speed) such as smoothing out the acceleration and kicking on the fans a little sooner.
My previous bike was a big, air-cooled v-twin. Pros and cons to both, but really loving the FZ-10. A lot! This one is handling the heat so much better. High temps are already in the high 90s here (ugh). I’m hoping I can get another month of riding weather before it’s time to put it away from the Summer.
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redshlrt
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Post by redshlrt on Apr 10, 2018 18:21:53 GMT -7
I've heard that the twitchy throttle is partly caused by the bike running slightly too lean (speculation is the manufacturer does this for emissions reasons). If that's true, the ECU flash that addresses this (among many other changes) would richen the bike and use more fuel. I'd be curious when I do mine, you know once my bike finally arrives, if the guys doing the flash can leave one mode alone, to maintain a 'touring' level of fuel economy. Or maybe the changes are so slight that it only changes MPG on paper and you don't notice it out in the real world.
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Post by papawheelie on Apr 10, 2018 18:58:34 GMT -7
I have wondered about that possibility as well...the idea of having different fuel maps for each mode. I don’t think that’s how it works, but it would be interesting.
STD = 160 miles per tank and 8,000 miles per rear tire.
B = 80 miles per tank and 2,000 miles per rear tire.
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av8er
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Post by av8er on Apr 11, 2018 4:21:34 GMT -7
I've heard that the twitchy throttle is partly caused by the bike running slightly too lean (speculation is the manufacturer does this for emissions reasons). If that's true, the ECU flash that addresses this (among many other changes) would richen the bike and use more fuel. I'd be curious when I do mine, you know once my bike finally arrives, if the guys doing the flash can leave one mode alone, to maintain a 'touring' level of fuel economy. Or maybe the changes are so slight that it only changes MPG on paper and you don't notice it out in the real world. There is some truth to the twitchiness of our bikes directly related to the tune. Leaner fuel settings = more power. There is a point of diminishing return where too lean will cause damage to your engine. Most tunes run a little more on the richer side to avoid this. I have the FTECU tuning with active tune and have the Graves EVO with their provided larger exup midpipe. This allows me to ride in any altitude, or temp change constantly tuning to the parameters set in the FTECU software for as much power as possible without concern of hurting the engine from a too lean condition. Yes, you can tune all or any mode you want to but consider this. All modes develop the exact same power stock. The mode change only changes how the power is delivered. If their is any difference in MPG it is only due to the riding style that you do while in the different modes. Droning down the interstate at a steady state speed should not really impact your MPG regardless of what mode your in. Theoretically. |
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theestate
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Post by theestate on Apr 16, 2018 8:59:08 GMT -7
Mostly STD mode, A for canyons, B for track. I will be eager to get a centerstand. Seen stands for the FZ09, but no comment if it will fit the FZ10. April 22 is a big day for me. My driving record will be clean - two years without a trip to the side of the road. I haven't slowed down, but one gets wiser each ticket. That include getting a Uniden R3. I find the mean miles per gallon from the odometer is about two miles per gallon high. If you have exceeded 143 miles per hour I am interested to know. Is it my bike or the factory saying no to 144 miles per hour. Ride on.
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theestate
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Post by theestate on Feb 21, 2022 16:43:00 GMT -7
 February 21, 2022 Update Ownership - 5 years, 7 months. Purchased new Miles - 34,968 MPG Low - 26.3 (track day) MPG High - 45.9 MPG Mean - 37.7 Fuel Cost Gallon Low - $2.11 Fuel Cost Gallon High - $4.64 Fuel Cost Gallon Mean - $3.21 Checked the valves four times. Required an adjustment each time. I am convinced the FZ-10 left the factory with the exhaust valves set to the same clearance as the intake valves. The FZ-10 is aging. In 2019 the 3.05 mile course time at Miller Motorsports Park was 2:30 with a maximum speed of 144 MPH. Same course 2021 time is 2:33 with a top speed of 138. The 2021 lap was a hot day in August (100°). It may be a factor in the slower time and speed. 2019 2021 Lean angle gauge is off - my foot pegs would be dragging around 48°. For perspective, Carlos Checa owns the track record 1:47. My speed (GPS) stops at 144 MPH. I know there is more with tuning. I would prefer an R1 over a tuned FZ-10 - R1 insurance is too expensive. I have replaced air filter annually. Spark plugs about the same. Change oil with filter every 2,000 to 2,500 miles. Replaced sprockets once, chain twice. Rear wheel bearings once. Stock engine and exhaust. Front brakes once. Overall a good experience. Dunlop Sportmax tires are my favorite but cost too much so I use Bridgestone Hypersport S2x My opinion is that Yamaha builds a reliable motorcycle with the customer in mind. Honda seems more profit driven and cheap. I enjoyed my FZ1 better. It was slightly faster 147MPH. Not as quick off the line but a sharp looking motorcycle. The FZ-10 is ugly from the handlebars forward but has the crossplane crankshaft and one less valve to check. The FZ-10 is good for is class, but not the best. I am not a racer so the FZ-10 is a good choice for me. Interested in your mileage and performance. If 5 is like new, my FZ-10 scores a 4. Ride on. |
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