Deleted
Posts: 0
Registered: Nov 21, 2024 4:24:21 GMT -7
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 18:19:19 GMT -7
Vehicle manufacturers don't always put and/or recommend what's best for the vehicles they make. An easy example is the HUGE tires (up to 240s) some install on some cruisers; just because they're bigger, doesn't mean they are better. They turn worth a crap; they're just for looks. At the other side of the spectrum, a 160 tire wouldn't make sense in our bikes either. There's an optimal size somewhere in the middle, that engineers would always push for, but there're other forces at play, from marketing folks, EPA, lawyers, and bean counters. Many times is up to owners to figure out what's best your his/her motorcycle, from tire size, brakes, suspension, etc. Manufacturers rarely put the best components right off the bat. And anybody smart enough knows that  . So nothing wrong questioning their choices, and trying to improve your ride  . |
|
Sponsored Ad
|
gunnar
Full Member
fabbin stuff...
Posts: 235
Likes: 146
Registered: Aug 14, 2019 9:54:53 GMT -7
|
Post by gunnar on Dec 29, 2019 11:50:40 GMT -7
Vehicle manufacturers don't always put and/or recommend what's best for the vehicles they make. An easy example is the HUGE tires (up to 240s) some install on some cruisers; just because they're bigger, doesn't mean they are better. They turn worth a crap; they're just for looks. At the other side of the spectrum, a 160 tire wouldn't make sense in our bikes either. There's an optimal size somewhere in the middle, that engineers would always push for, but there're other forces at play, from marketing folks, EPA, lawyers, and bean counters. Many times is up to owners to figure out what's best your his/her motorcycle, from tire size, brakes, suspension, etc. Manufacturers rarely put the best components right off the bat. And anybody smart enough knows that . So nothing wrong questioning their choices, and trying to improve your ride . This coming from a guy who puts aftermarket parts on his bike, then complains about being "not OEM enough looking" (unless only he installs the parts, then it's fine) thinking 10-12 ounces of weight saving removing a half inch of aluminum and 10mm of rubber is magically going to make his bike perfect. I'm sure a racer or test rider can easily feel the differences and make recommendations, (but not you, you're not smart enough) and I'm sure I couldn't tell any difference. As for the 240 rear, I have a bike with one of those, and surprisingly it will turn/change directions as quick as I can on my MT10, but with 25 degrees less lean angle, there are limits, (but you're right it does look good). |
|
|
|
Post by clayton on Dec 29, 2019 15:15:42 GMT -7
Vehicle manufacturers don't always put and/or recommend what's best for the vehicles they make. An easy example is the HUGE tires (up to 240s) some install on some cruisers; just because they're bigger, doesn't mean they are better. They turn worth a crap; they're just for looks. At the other side of the spectrum, a 160 tire wouldn't make sense in our bikes either. There's an optimal size somewhere in the middle, that engineers would always push for, but there're other forces at play, from marketing folks, EPA, lawyers, and bean counters. Many times is up to owners to figure out what's best your his/her motorcycle, from tire size, brakes, suspension, etc. Manufacturers rarely put the best components right off the bat. And anybody smart enough knows that . So nothing wrong questioning their choices, and trying to improve your ride . This coming from a guy who puts aftermarket parts on his bike, then complains about being "not OEM enough looking" (unless only he installs the parts, then it's fine) thinking 10-12 ounces of weight saving removing a half inch of aluminum and 10mm of rubber is magically going to make his bike perfect. I'm sure a racer or test rider can easily feel the differences and make recommendations, (but not you, you're not smart enough) and I'm sure I couldn't tell any difference. As for the 240 rear, I have a bike with one of those, and surprisingly it will turn/change directions as quick as I can on my MT10, but with 25 degrees less lean angle, there are limits, (but you're right it does look good). I agree My Yamaha Raider come from the factory with a 210 rear and I switched to a 240 and man does that bike handle awesome in the curves. Majority of Raider owners first mod is switching out that crappy factory metzler 210 for the cobra Avon 240. Much longer thread life and handles freakin awesome. Iv got over 31,500 miles on my Raider now and on my 3rd 240. |
|
nicklabrie
New Member
Posts: 4
Registered: Nov 9, 2017 13:45:49 GMT -7
|
Post by nicklabrie on Feb 23, 2020 18:51:52 GMT -7
... Also, liability wise, a company would not release a product that will only work with one tire. What? |
|
blackclu
Full Member
Posts: 118
Likes: 88
Registered: Jan 19, 2018 23:55:03 GMT -7
|
Post by blackclu on Feb 23, 2020 18:58:05 GMT -7
... Also, liability wise, a company would not release a product that will only work with one tire. What? Because if they did, shops would put other tires on, people would crash and they would sue yamaha. I have raced 200/60 tires. It works wonderfully.   |
|
tacii
New Member
2022 MT-10 SP
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Registered: Jan 6, 2023 2:05:25 GMT -7
|
Post by tacii on Aug 7, 2024 3:55:10 GMT -7
Have you seen a 200/60 on a Gen2 (2022+ MT-10?)
|
|
wallycycle
New Member
Posts: 8
Likes: 6
Registered: Mar 17, 2018 22:45:15 GMT -7
|
Post by wallycycle on Aug 16, 2024 21:03:11 GMT -7
180/55-17 on mine. No problem. No difference compared to the 190.
|
|
dougiequick
New Member
Posts: 18
Likes: 5
Registered: Jun 21, 2023 1:21:32 GMT -7
|
Post by dougiequick on Sept 30, 2024 20:23:40 GMT -7
IF losing excess body weight truly is a viable option to acheive the ideal spring rates then no joke that IS the premium fix ! And nothing to be scoffed at as it is just win win win financial health AND the motorcycles performance ALL of which might even be dramatically improved! Scoff at the suggestion if you want to buy simply by eliminating my soft drinks habit I lost like 40 0r 50 pounds over a few months! I wasn't even really trying to lose weight I just knew all that sugar was causing health issues including significant tooth decay...I was actually scared I maybe had cancer or something because the weight came off so fast but after a bunch of tests it was just the soft drinks (lots of cola daily) that was killing me! The years later I stopped drinking alcohol also because of another health issue and lost a bunch more weight! I originally was like 240 llbs and could not see my damn feet for my belly! Now I am a trim 165llb without any other dieting...my stock spring rates seem about right! I bet I save enough money to pay for gas and tires and too! AND my bike's power to weight ratio no doubt is significantly better than it would be if I was still carrying around that origininal 75 pounds of extra blubber! Just saying
|
|
vstate60
Full Member
Posts: 223
Likes: 66
Registered: Jul 20, 2019 14:37:58 GMT -7
|
Post by vstate60 on Oct 3, 2024 16:22:39 GMT -7
Have you seen a 200/60 on a Gen2 (2022+ MT-10?) Yessir--I've been thru ~6-8 200mm rear slicks on my 2022 MT-10. Video evidence, if you're interested: Vstate60 on YouTube |
|
871jz
Full Member
Posts: 118
Likes: 38
Registered: May 1, 2024 6:51:14 GMT -7
|
Post by 871jz on Oct 5, 2024 23:19:23 GMT -7
Have you seen a 200/60 on a Gen2 (2022+ MT-10?) Yessir--I've been thru ~6-8 200mm rear slicks on my 2022 MT-10. Video evidence, if you're interested: Vstate60 on YouTubeJust sent you a message. |
|
. So nothing wrong questioning their choices, and trying to improve your ride 
.
