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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 11:06:27 GMT -7
Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation brother, but still don't quite understand how you can make that happen. Yes, I've made those shifts on cars many times, and I also know our bikes have TBW, which could also be used to cut engine power for the upshifts. Everything you said makes sense... IF you can somehow disengage the clutch, OR put tranny in N. On our sequential transmission, you can't do that except in 2nd. So, let's put a specific example: Let's say you're coasting (the only safe way to do clutchless downshifts on bikes) at 5K rpm in 4th gear. To downshift to 3rd, let's say the engine has to be at 7K rpm. How the heck do you get the engine from 5K to 7K rpm with the clutch engaged... and without any jerkiness, and/or wear??? THAT is the part I don't get. I did an accidental clutchless downshift (while coasting) a while back, and the sound wasn't pretty. BMW bikes equipped with QS PRO (up and down) don't allow them if you have the throttle open any amount. Thx.
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Post by gunnar on Aug 30, 2019 8:18:08 GMT -7
Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation brother, but still don't quite understand how you can make that happen. Sensor on shift rod detects movement from your foot. Downward pressure-shift fork disengaging 4th gear. There is a short amount of time (less than 1/10th of a second, and probably a lot lesser than that) where the transmission is in between gears, once the gear dogs clear each other, this is where the blip happens. Engine rev matches to enable 3rd gear engagement (the end of your foot movement). Your 2000 RPM difference is exaggerated, it's more like 500 RPM.
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Post by dewaynehasty on Dec 1, 2019 14:52:33 GMT -7
I strongly recommend you check that the kit sent you is correct before you do the install. I wish I had
I just got the FTECU AutoBlipper from 2Wheels. Installed it. Then discovered that the green wire has a round connector while the wire I pulled from the harness is square. I'm sure they will make this right but it sucks to have to reinstall it.
Note I have a 2017 FZ10 and the kit sent says on the label 2017+. To be fair this isn't 2Wheels fault. This is on FTECU.
Update 12/10/19 - 2Wheels customer service was fantastic on this. They even called me on Sunday to apologize for FTECU's packaging error and that they would ship out the correct cable on asao. I have since received it and everything is working great. One piece of advise: It is a 50/50 chance that you will connect the sensor cable correctly to the two ports (this will make sense when you get the product). I of course got it wrong the first time. Just hook them up, go test ride, and see if you can upshift without the clutch. This sounds scary but what I found was it was impossible to move the shift lever up at all if you have it connected wrong.
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Post by ponchick on May 3, 2020 17:25:20 GMT -7
I still can't get my ftecu blipper working properly. It operates the same and allows me to quichshift no matter how I have the quick shifter and auto blip cable connected. I've tried flipping them back and forth and my quickshifter continues operating the same with either connection. When I go into sixth gear and I let go of the throttle my bike starts stuttering as if it's trying to downshift into fifth gear.
It allows me to downshift easily while I have the throttle open without the clutch but I need to press pretty hard when attempting to downshift with the throttle closed
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Post by rj on May 5, 2020 8:25:51 GMT -7
I still can't get my ftecu blipper working properly. It operates the same and allows me to quichshift no matter how I have the quick shifter and auto blip cable connected. I've tried flipping them back and forth and my quickshifter continues operating the same with either connection. When I go into sixth gear and I let go of the throttle my bike starts stuttering as if it's trying to downshift into fifth gear.
It allows me to downshift easily while I have the throttle open without the clutch but I need to press pretty hard when attempting to downshift with the throttle closed Have you checked the cables in this bulletin? Blipper BulletinIf your wiring in the harness looks like shown, then you need to swap them.
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Post by ponchick on May 7, 2020 12:05:43 GMT -7
I still can't get my ftecu blipper working properly. It operates the same and allows me to quichshift no matter how I have the quick shifter and auto blip cable connected. I've tried flipping them back and forth and my quickshifter continues operating the same with either connection. When I go into sixth gear and I let go of the throttle my bike starts stuttering as if it's trying to downshift into fifth gear.
It allows me to downshift easily while I have the throttle open without the clutch but I need to press pretty hard when attempting to downshift with the throttle closed Have you checked the cables in this bulletin? Blipper BulletinIf your wiring in the harness looks like shown, then you need to swap them.
thanks for the tip, but i've already checked that. I'm currently waiting on ftecu and 2wheeldynoworks to get back to me
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rj
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Post by rj on May 7, 2020 19:09:10 GMT -7
The other thing you might check is to make sure the green wire didn't get pushed back out when seating the plug.
I put a multimeter on the shift sensor to test and pushing down (Downshift) on the sensor gives good contact with minimal force. Pushing the sensor up (Upshift) requires alot more force to close the contacts. Worth a shot just to see if the sensor is doing what it's supposed too.
Let us know what they say.
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Post by yourname2221 on May 21, 2020 5:22:02 GMT -7
The other thing you might check is to make sure the green wire didn't get pushed back out when seating the plug. I put a multimeter on the shift sensor to test and pushing down (Downshift) on the sensor gives good contact with minimal force. Pushing the sensor up (Upshift) requires alot more force to close the contacts. Worth a shot just to see if the sensor is doing what it's supposed too. Let us know what they say. This is what happened to me after install. The green connector pushed itself a bit back so like you a shot for continuity but on harness side to found out my problem. Can anyone take a pic of their shift linkage, I'm curious how much exposed of the bolts you guys have to have it set in the correct position for yourselfs.
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