nbe23
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Post by nbe23 on Aug 6, 2017 16:58:37 GMT -7
My service tech told me it's close to time for a new rear tire at just 2800 miles. He mentioned selling me a dual compound tire but this will be the first tire replacement choice I've ever had to make for a motorcycle. I'm a relatively new rider overall but I own 2 motorcycles, just not sure what the best option is for my style of riding. I enjoy riding in the twisties leaned over but I don't plan on doing any track days. Most of my riding is around town and in the country with some commuting to work mixed in. I don't ride in the rain unless I'm caught in it by accident. Should I take the techs advice and use a dual compound tire or just stick with the factory tire which I really have no complaints about? Maybe there is a better option out there but I would like to get at least 4000 miles out of my next tire and most of my current tire wear is down the middle of the tire due to acceleration on straights. That's probably why he mentioned the dual compound tire.
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Post by roninser on Aug 6, 2017 17:47:36 GMT -7
I'd recommend a dual compound, it sounds like it would suit your riding style and expectations. Most tires nowadays are dual or even triple compound. My trackbike tires are dual compound Pirelli super corsa's, I run power road 4's on the FZ. Dual compound covers alot of options, its more what you are looking for in the tire as a whole. I commute 120-130 miles a day on the FZ, and hence really need something that will deliver some decent mileage from the center portion. The flip side is I ride hard as well, and really need something with some good grip at moderate to high lean angles. The power road 4's have treated me well so far, they are extremely good in the rain as well(so much so I had a set on spare rims for the trackbike as rains). To give example I have worn through half the peg feelers, so I can say these tires give good grip at lean. Albeit they do move around a good bit at the very edge but I expect this with the tread cuts that are in the tire. I also live in the mountains and love hitting entrance/exit ramps on my knee;), I use the FULL tire. So there is some testament to modern rubber. Just a little tech from my simple mind lol. Tire tech is extremely advanced nowadays. Manufacturers now blend silica and carbon compounds on the same carcass without bonding issues, tire warmup is almost non existent on street tires as compared to years ago when I was in the industry, rain performance is incredible, and longevity is hugely improved on sport/touring tires. Never skimp on tires on a bike, its your only bond between you and the road. If you don't ride much and arent too budget minded I recommend a stickier tire as having extra grip is always better than needing more! Also I would recommend doing more of what you are doing, talk to people, research on your own, and learn for yourself. Everyone is different in what they feel or how they translate what a bike is doing under them. Just some of my experiences and opinions, hope it helps.
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Post by Cruizin on Aug 6, 2017 22:42:00 GMT -7
The Power road 3 is one of the best tires I have ever run on any bike. Long lasting, great traction, good performance. I tried the PR4 on the FZ-09 and didn't like it as well as the PR-3.
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Post by RedAndBlack on Aug 7, 2017 8:41:45 GMT -7
The stock S20s are an amazing sport tire, but I am not surprised at the wear. They are an excellent, very grippy tire that can hold it's own even during track days. But they do wear rather quickly and should definitely be considered strictly a sport tire, they are not sport touring tires.
You sound like you would definitely benefit from a sport touring tire. Just realize you won't have as much grip and make sure to have good heat in your tires and try to run good tire pressures before you hit the canyons and start really leaning over. If you do those two things, you'll be fine on Sport Touring tires. Sport Touring tires might sometimes cost more than the stock tires, but considering they will last longer, you will save money in the long run, so do not let price discourage you. You can easily double or triple that mileage with sport touring tire.
As mentioned above, The Michelin Pilot Roads Tires (They are up to V4 now) are a favorite. I also have a bunch of friends that run the Pirelli Angel GTs and absolutely swear by them. My friends that do more canyon carving tend to really like the Pirelli Angels. Where buddies that do a lot of commuting, but occasionally do some canyon stuff, seem to gravitate to Michelin.
Dunlop makes a Roadsmart but I don't know anybody who runs them. A Bridgestone makes the BT 23 tire which is probably one of the cheapest sport touring tires, but I've never heard good things about Bridgestone's BT line of tires.
Finally, you can also look into the Pirelli Rosso 3s. Although I think they are considered more of a sport tire, they are dual compound and I have some friends that run them as well and absolutely love them and get good mileage out of them.
I have not run ANY of these tires, all my experience is through second hand and word of mouth from buddies that do canyon riding. So take my advice for what its worth. Hope that helps.
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Post by evitzee on Aug 7, 2017 10:17:47 GMT -7
I'm at about 3,000 miles and my rear tire is shot too. No matter how you ride you tend to wear the center portion first, you can't be riding twisties all the time. Although the FZ-10 is billed as some sort of quasi sport tourer the poor gas mileage and choice of sticky stock Hypersport tires does not fulfill that mission completely so I'm not sure Yamaha has fully thought out the FZ-10's reason for existence. I'm going to go with a more sport touring tire for a replacement even if there is some loss in handling capability, I really value a longer life tire and will give up some of the traction, I'm not a hard core canyon carver. I've used the Dunlop Roadsmart II tires on my previous FZ1 and was happy with them, the mileage was a hell of a lot better than 3,000 on the rear. They have a new update, the Roadsmart III and they claim it has superior wear resistance with good rideability. I think most tires these days are multi compound to some extent but some are better than others. www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/tire-line/roadsmart-iii/ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 10:10:08 GMT -7
My rear S20 should have been changed at 3500mi or so...I pushed it to 4K. I've been running a Bridgestone T30 Evo rear since then. I'm at 7K now and the front S20 needs to be changed. The S20 was a great tire to push the new bike a bit but they don't last. From the way it sounds I think a lot of folks on the boards ride a lot harder than I do. I'm no slouch but I don't really lay it really far over and I've been ok with the T30s. With 3K on them they are starting to flatten out a touch in the middle and I think the most I'll get out of them is 6K. I ran set after set of the Michelin Pilot Road 2 on the FZ1 and loved them. I used to ride that bike pretty hard in the corners and the tires kept up. I would get 10-12K out of a front, at least 8K out of a rear, and a set would run $200ish. Then they stopped making them  I'm a bit cheap for what they're asking for a PR4 based on the mileage I would get, so I've been running the T30 Evo on this bike as well. The PR2s handled better and lasted longer. The next time I need a full set on this bike I'm going to try the Roadsmart III. 10K out of a rear and good all-weather grip? Yes please! I love the chumps around here that ride 1K a year back and forth to Starbucks tell me how I need some new $220 super soft Pirelli hotness tire because it would last them 3 seasons. I hate hate hate changing tires (not as much as paying someone else to do it though) so changing tires with every oil change is a non-starter.  |
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I'm a bit cheap for what they're asking for a PR4 based on the mileage I would get, so I've been running the T30 Evo on this bike as well. The PR2s handled better and lasted longer. The next time I need a full set on this bike I'm going to try the Roadsmart III. 10K out of a rear and good all-weather grip? Yes please!