roninser
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Post by roninser on Jul 17, 2017 16:23:43 GMT -7
Hello all, I've done a little research and cant find definitively myself. Does anyone know if the Yamaha QS work with reverse shift pattern? Thanks!!
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Post by evitzee on Jul 17, 2017 17:29:56 GMT -7
I don't think so. It works for the YZF-R1S in the MotoGP pattern but perhaps not for the FZ-10.
Here is the description on the Yamaha website:
The GYTR Quick Shifter enhances rider control by limiting chassis movement — eliminating the need to come off the throttle; allowing clutch-less shifting. •Same OE Quick Shift System (QSS) components that come standard on the YZF®-R1 and YZF-R1M •Works with both standard and MotoGP® shift patterns for YZF-R1S •Works with standard shift patterns for FZ®-10 •Saves wear and tear on the clutch and transmission •Easy plug-and-play installation
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Post by roninser on Jul 17, 2017 19:51:34 GMT -7
OK, so I am impatient...the GYTR shifter to my knowledge only works if utilizing a traditional shift pattern. I prefer reversed for many reasons, and had been running reversed on this bike by simply rotating the linkage. So, the only option I saw was to drill and tap the factory lever behind the pivot point. Now just a word to the wise, the factory casting there appears the perfect spot to drill, DONT. LOL. The casting has a flat part that is perfect to drill into, not curved like the rest of the lever. I have a drill press so its not as much of an issue, but you'll see what I mean if you ever have a look at the back of the lever. After you assemble you will find it makes the linkage bind with the pivot point on the far end of the throw. Drill closer to the boot part of the lever. Also by doing this remember you are increasing the length of the lever from the pivot to the attachment point of the linkage, therefore you can shorten your throw. Thanks all. If it turns out common or this is helpful I can post pics.
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Post by unbound327 on Aug 17, 2017 4:24:32 GMT -7
Hypothetically speaking let's say I switch my shifter around for gp shifting, I wonder if you could switch the output signal of the QS to trick the computer into thinking it's shifting in standard shifting mode? Anyone have a wire diagram of the quick shifter? Or any idea how it works?
Just thinking out loud
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Post by unbound327 on Aug 17, 2017 19:22:43 GMT -7
So looking at a picture of the qs it looks like it's just a 2 wire plug I don't think switching both pins would do any good since it's just a pressure switch 😔
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roninser
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Post by roninser on Aug 18, 2017 14:10:21 GMT -7
I never delved into the switch itself as I just figured a pull type is only a pull type Its sprung I am sure and has contacts so it would be difficult to reverse. It doesnt just send a signal one way and not the other, it only signals one way, has no way of making the cut in a push motion. Yeah, I didn't want to do the drill and tap thing either really, but it's worked nicely, and is shifting smoother. The QS just sounds so awesome really on this engine. I don't think the R1 shifter will work on our bikes either. The shifter really doesn't look odd or modified the way it is now, If you want i can snap a pic. Good luck with wherever you decide to go in this one;)
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Post by unbound327 on Aug 19, 2017 16:08:25 GMT -7
Please do!!!!
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Post by roninser on Aug 20, 2017 17:09:37 GMT -7
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Post by roninser on Aug 20, 2017 17:12:16 GMT -7
The odd angle that the lower ball joint sits at bothered me at first, just worried about it binding. But the boot makes it looks more pronounced than it actually is, plus thats what a ball joint is for right? lol. My solution to the issue, and its holding up well, have a couple thousand miles on it since then and no issues. I did use some blue locktite on the that lower bolt though.
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Post by unbound327 on Aug 22, 2017 17:28:30 GMT -7
The odd angle that the lower ball joint sits at bothered me at first, just worried about it binding. But the boot makes it looks more pronounced than it actually is, plus thats what a ball joint is for right? lol. My solution to the issue, and its holding up well, have a couple thousand miles on it since then and no issues. I did use some blue locktite on the that lower bolt though. Awesome thanks!! I'll have to do the same whenever my qs comes in
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Post by pokeimam on Sept 13, 2017 12:57:46 GMT -7
I have a 2017 Mt10 Sp with QSS fitted as original .. Can we downshift it ?
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Post by stonesie on Sept 13, 2017 13:25:35 GMT -7
I have a 2017 Mt10 Sp with QSS fitted as original .. Can we downshift it ? You mean like an autoblipper? No, the Yamaha shifter is UP only. What I would do is to get the Woolich Racing shifter/blipper fitted and the bike mapped to suit... Then sell the Yamaha shifter to get some money back. Do any exhaust and intake/filter mods first and enjoy more power with smooth shifting both ways. My bike on the dyno.
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Post by latte on Oct 17, 2017 16:04:18 GMT -7
Another approach to GYTR shifter and GP shift is aftermarket rearsets. Chances are if you're running reverse you're utilizing it to be able to upshift out of a turn/have some track time planned. Rearsets are a must if you're going to be running anything but novice times since the stock ones are so forward and low. The shift linkage on the Driven ones allow GP shift in the way that was shown above, but without the angle. You can also run stock peg position if you want.. for those who just want GP shift and the GYTR QS at the same time and nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 17:41:25 GMT -7
I never delved into the switch itself as I just figured a pull type is only a pull type Its sprung I am sure and has contacts so it would be difficult to reverse. It doesnt just send a signal one way and not the other, it only signals one way, has no way of making the cut in a push motion. Yeah, I didn't want to do the drill and tap thing either really, but it's worked nicely, and is shifting smoother. The QS just sounds so awesome really on this engine. I don't think the R1 shifter will work on our bikes either. The shifter really doesn't look odd or modified the way it is now, If you want i can snap a pic. Good luck with wherever you decide to go in this one;) Hi roninser, Ive been trying to figure out exactly what i need to drill and tap from your pictures and i haven't been able to figure it out, is there any chance you could please post pics of the part that had to be modified? it looks like u didn't even have to flip the top elbow to get the gp shift pattern. Thanks so much
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Post by roninser on Apr 18, 2019 7:41:00 GMT -7
Hey Sumimasn, apologies that I didn't catch your request till now, let me know if you still need any pics or anything for this project.
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